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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: February 7, 2020, 3:39 am
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       Should not have been looking for loopholes though should he?
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: February 7, 2020, 5:18 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > Should not have been looking for loopholes though should he?
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       This is the same Wray who, we were told, did not know how much
       he was paying the players anyway...
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: February 7, 2020, 5:20 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > Should not have been looking for loopholes though should he?
       >
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       Unless he wants to be really helpful
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       > 2.3       Operation of the Regulations
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       > (a) To ensure the proper observance and enforcement of the
       Regulations, each Club agrees during the operation of the
       Regulations to notify in writing to the Salary Cap Manager
       details of:
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       > (i) any potential or actual loopholes, lacunae or errors in
       the Regulations;
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       #Post#: 38132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: February 7, 2020, 6:47 am
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       Salarysins in more trouble:
       Misconduct complaint – Saracens
       Friday 7th February 2020
       12:00 pm (GMT)
       
       Misconduct complaint – Saracens
       Allianz Park
       Following an investigation, EPCR has decided to bring a
       misconduct complaint against Saracens arising from the club’s
       Heineken Champions Cup, Round 6 match against Racing 92 on
       Sunday, 19 January.
       EPCR was informed by Saracens earlier this week that their
       player, Titi Lamositele, who was named in the match day squad
       for the fixture at Allianz Park and who came on to the field of
       play as a replacement in the 60th minute, may have been
       ineligible due an inadvertent administrative error on behalf of
       the club.
       Lamositele was eligible at the time the Saracens match day squad
       was announced, however, the club has indicated to EPCR that the
       player’s work permit expired on Saturday, 18 January, the day
       before the fixture against Racing 92, and this may have
       constituted a breach of the Disciplinary Rules of the 2019/20
       EPCR Participation Agreement.
       An independent Disciplinary Committee consisting of Roger Morris
       (Wales), Chair, Pamela Woodman (Scotland) and Jean-Noel Couraud
       (France) has been appointed to hear the misconduct complaint in
       London this evening (Friday, 7 February) at 18.00 local time.
       EPCR will be making no further comment until the decision of the
       independent Disciplinary Committee has been communicated.
  HTML https://www.epcrugby.com/2020/02/07/misconduct-complaint-saracens/
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: February 7, 2020, 7:29 am
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       It’s not going to help the mind set of those playing for England
       tomorrow if they know. What a Club - I know anyone can make
       mistake but . . .
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: February 7, 2020, 7:51 am
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       Much as it would top everything for their QF to be scuppered, I
       don't think that will happen. Both Glasgow & Munster have claim
       to take their spot, and I could see the arguments going of for
       some time if that were to happen.
       Plus, while they remain in the Champions Cup they will look
       after their players to go for that, meaning they're more likely
       to rest players in the Premiership fixtures.
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: February 7, 2020, 8:13 am
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       The hearing is tonight, they could be acquitted, receive a fine
       +/or a points deduction, meaning that Glasgow take their place.
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: February 7, 2020, 8:38 am
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       I would expect a small points deduction for this.  From memory,
       London Welsh were docked 4 points in the Premiership for a
       similar offence.
       #Post#: 38146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: February 7, 2020, 8:47 am
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       I agree, it only needs a 2 point deduction and they are out.
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       Re: O/T Things looking worse for saracens financially
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: February 7, 2020, 9:02 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > I would expect a small points deduction for this.  From
       memory, London Welsh were docked 4 points in the Premiership for
       a similar offence.
       >
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       London Welsh were actually deducted five points for playing an
       ineligible player in a number of Premiership games after they
       falsified documents so very much worse - and a very lenient
       punishment in my opinion.
       This led to our former Team manager Mike Scott being banned from
       rugby for life. So you see cheats can be banned from the game
       for life.
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