DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
ComeAllWithin (Harlequins Rugby)
HTML https://comeallwithin.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: ComeAllWithin Board
*****************************************************
#Post#: 36614--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:12 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Pleased to hear that we were actively assisting with this
#Post#: 36619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:17 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
>
> Apparently we should be taking Alex Shaw's tweets with a large
dollop of salt, he's a bit of a twitter loudmouth who doesn't
back it up.
>
--- End Quote ---
Salted appropriately
#Post#: 36620--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: DOK
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:17 am
---------------------------------------------------------
And in all honesty, if another club felt it had to fight fire
with fire in order to compete with Saracens, I wouldn't be too
upset. Saracens though, have been extracting the Michael for
what, 6 years according to Andy Goode. Its purchases of players
over the summer were literally unbelievable - they had to be
stopped.
The fact this information had to come through clubs and agents
rather than the salary cap commissioner only show how much they
need to beef up that role and give him a proper department
funded by PRL.
#Post#: 36621--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:18 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
>
> Apparently we should be taking Alex Shaw's tweets with a large
dollop of salt, he's a bit of a twitter loudmouth who doesn't
back it up.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm not sure which club he's a supporter of but I've always
thought this tweets are quite good value / knowledgeable. He
certainly seems to know a lot about youth players
#Post#: 36625--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: Bucksquin
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:46 am
---------------------------------------------------------
I recall that Dean Richards was banned for three years from
having any involvement in the game, for bringing it into
disrepute. Surely at least Nigel Wray is guilty (if not other
individuals, too) of exactly the same thing, and even more so
than Deano, given the negative PR impact of the Sarries scandal
on rugby's reputation.
#Post#: 36627--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:49 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
>
> I'm not sure which club he's a supporter of but I've always
thought this tweets are quite good value / knowledgeable. He
certainly seems to know a lot about youth players
>
--- End Quote ---
Just passing on what people have suggested elsewhere! Though
it's usually a good idea to ignore a single twitter voice on
things like this
#Post#: 36629--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: Which Tyler
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:59 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
>
> A tweet from Alex Shaw...
--- End Quote ---
I knew what my gut was telling me about the strength of Sarries’
squad compared to other clubs - especially the 9 who are
supposed to be spending around the cap limit. On Sunday I was
desperate enough to avoid the big bang theory, that I decided to
do something about it - I got the squad lists for all 12 clubs,
and split the squads into categories – Marquee Class (Lions or
equivalent standard from overseas - which does introduce bias),
International Class (anyone else capped) and Uncapped players.
This keeps my bias out of it as much as possible,, and seems a
reasonable guide to wage categories at clubs (I’d have liked
further divisions, but they’d have increased bias). I just
wanted to see what stood out - for Sarries or anyone else. I
don't expect it to tell the whole story.
Marquee Class (top 2 above):
11 Saracens
5 Bath
5 L.Irish
5 Leicester
4 Northampton
3 Exeter
2.78 Average of 9
2 Bristol
2 Harlequins
2 Sale
1 Gloucester
1 Wasps
1 Worcester
Sarries have as many Marquee players as the next 2 clubs
combined
Capped International (established or otherwise)
19 Gloucester
19 Harlequins
18 Exeter
17 Sale
16 Leicester
15.55 Average of 9
15 Wasps
14 L.Irish
14 Saracens
12 Bath
12 Bristol
12 Northampton
9 Worcester
And they don't lose out in terms of capped depth
Uncapped Players
35 Worcester
33 Bristol
32 Bath
31 Northampton
30 Exeter
28 Wasps
27 Leicester
27 L Irish
26.67 Average of 9
24 Harlequins
20 Gloucester
16 Saracens
15 Sale
They just make up for it by having fewer uncapped players.
There's only one club that leaps out (to me) of the data as
being different to the others
#Post#: 36630--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: January 22, 2020, 7:20 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, I specifically looked at Bath the other day as part of a
discussion on this and they do not raise any alarm bells with
that squad.
#Post#: 36631--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: harlequins
Date: January 22, 2020, 7:20 am
---------------------------------------------------------
A good chart.
#Post#: 36633--------------------------------------------------
Re: Clubs assisted in investigation
DIR By: DOK
Date: January 22, 2020, 7:32 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Also, Saracens have forced us to spend time, effort and money on
producing this dossier for what is presumably free of charge for
PRL.
*****************************************************
Page 2 of 4
DIR Previous Page
DIR Next Page