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Re: Gloucester use Salary Cap loophole
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: January 22, 2020, 4:43 am
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I didn't actually know about this rule, but it seems fairly
clear. I initially thought it was similar to dual registration
but appears to be a different matter. Dual registration is
presumably only for academy players, who have a cap on their
salaries anyway, so the dual registration is irrelevant to the
cap?
I wonder if we have any senior players out on loan, such as
Earle who we knew at the start of the season would be out long
term. I can't think who else at the start of the season was due
to be out for the majority of the season. Maybe Bothma is on
loan too?
#Post#: 36605--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gloucester use Salary Cap loophole
DIR By: N.G.A.
Date: January 22, 2020, 5:49 am
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> I wonder if we have any senior players out on loan, such as
Earle who we knew at the start of the season would be out long
term.
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I would have thought Earle would be covered as an injury
dispensation.
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Re: Gloucester use Salary Cap loophole
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: January 22, 2020, 6:41 am
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--- Quote from: N.G.A. link ---
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> I would have thought Earle would be covered as an injury
dispensation.
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If I have understood correctly, when a player is injured, you
still pay their salary (unless the contract says you don't,
which seems unlikely, unless you've signed someone on pay as you
play due to previous track record) and their salary counts
towards the cap. If they are then injured, you can bring someone
in of a similar standard and while you still have to pay them
(obviously), their salary does not count towards the cap,
subject to a maximum of £400,000 to cover all injury
replacements.
So if we got someone in to cover Earle, we'd still be paying him
and it would count to the cap, and then paying any replacement
(I don't think there is one) but the replacement's salary
wouldn't count towards the cap.
If we register Earle as a player on loan then we still pay him
but his salary doesn't count towards the cap so long as he plays
fewer then 4 games for us in the season (and each game he plays
his salary counts on a pro rated basis). That's my understanding
anyway. What I'm not sure about is whether you can register a
player on loan so their salary doesn't count towards the cap,
and then still get injury cover for them. I would guess not, as
then you get two players and neither salary counts.
So, again assuming my understanding is correct, if you know that
a player will be injured for most the season (or can't play for
some other reason, including to comply with the cap, like
Lambert maybe) you can register them as on loan and their salary
doesn't count, or if they get injured during the season then you
get a replacement in and their salary doesn't count.
In the case of someone like Lambert I suppose it is a slight
loophole in that, if he is out on loan, his salary doesn't count
towards the cap as long as he doesn't play enough games (and
from memory did he just play in A league, cup and then fewer
than 4 proper games?) but he can still train, so he's helping
make up numbers in training, passing on experience to younger
players, etc
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Re: Gloucester use Salary Cap loophole
DIR By: Quinky
Date: January 22, 2020, 8:43 am
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That raises an interesting point - if a club signs a player but
they don't play, are they still counted under the cap? If not, a
club could theoretically sign (for example) Itoje, he doesn't
play the rest of the season, Sarries have reduced their bill,
and Itoje still trains with the club etc.
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