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#Post#: 36472--------------------------------------------------
Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: TW Quin
Date: January 21, 2020, 6:01 am
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I wonder if all Saracens players on enhanced remuneration
packages were asked to sign confidentiality clauses? We do not
seem to have heard from any past or current players.
Perhaps JJ or other ex players might like to say why they left
first team rugby for bench or squad roles at Saracens?
Must be someone prepared to comment?
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: harlequins
Date: January 21, 2020, 6:03 am
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Why they left...let me think....£££$$$££
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: January 21, 2020, 6:15 am
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Where is JJ now?
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: January 21, 2020, 6:19 am
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Currently playing in France for Brive, I think...
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: New Forest Quin
Date: January 21, 2020, 6:22 am
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> Currently playing in France for Brive, I think...
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Yes, a regular for the last couple of years.
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: Quinky
Date: January 21, 2020, 7:04 am
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> Yes, a regular for the last couple of years.
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Playing well, from what I've heard.
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: January 21, 2020, 7:22 am
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This is part of the lesser talked about affect that sarries
salary shenanigans has had. JJ was a nailed on starter for us in
the 2011/12 season, but he left us to become 2nd/3rd choice at
sarries because of the better financial package. We weren't able
to keep him. Since that move, he's struggled to find a solid
place in a side until he moved to Brive.
We lost out on a key player & struggled to get stability at TH
for a season or two (Sinkler's breakthrough was really the
2013/14 season). JJ lost out in terms of his career too, sitting
on the bench mostly, then bouncing from club to club in the
Premiership. Sarries had a useful fallback of a player who'd
just won a Premiership title who could sit on the bench behind
their existing props & play the odd game or two. Ad finally the
salary expectations of players is increased because they could
see that sarries were willing to pay that much for a player who
wasn't going to play a major part in their campaign, so other
clubs "must be willing to spend at least that much" to players
who are getting more regular First Team gametime.
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: DOK
Date: January 21, 2020, 7:35 am
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In the end I don't think JJ got much more money from Saracens.
He'd really been angling for a big money deal from France, and
that never materialised. When he tried to come back to
Harlequins, we'd already signed his replacement and couldn't fit
him in under the cap. So he was in a poor negotiating position
going to Saracens.
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: January 21, 2020, 8:20 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> This is part of the lesser talked about affect that sarries
salary shenanigans has had. JJ was a nailed on starter for us in
the 2011/12 season, but he left us to become 2nd/3rd choice at
sarries because of the better financial package. We weren't able
to keep him. Since that move, he's struggled to find a solid
place in a side until he moved to Brive.
>
> We lost out on a key player & struggled to get stability at TH
for a season or two (Sinkler's breakthrough was really the
2013/14 season). JJ lost out in terms of his career too, sitting
on the bench mostly, then bouncing from club to club in the
Premiership. Sarries had a useful fallback of a player who'd
just won a Premiership title who could sit on the bench behind
their existing props & play the odd game or two. Ad finally the
salary expectations of players is increased because they could
see that sarries were willing to pay that much for a player who
wasn't going to play a major part in their campaign, so other
clubs "must be willing to spend at least that much" to players
who are getting more regular First Team gametime.
>
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Not sure that is true. JJ advised Quins he was off, he was
expecting big offers from France. That never happened. In the
meantime, we signed PDJ to replace him. As a result JJ then
joined Sarries for basically what he was on at Quins
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Re: Saracens Whistleblowers?
DIR By: Quinky
Date: January 21, 2020, 8:31 am
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--- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
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> Not sure that is true. JJ advised Quins he was off, he was
expecting big offers from France. That never happened. In the
meantime, we signed PDJ to replace him.
>
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Yes! And who's laughing now?! Erm... not us...
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