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       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: stoquin
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:19 am
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       Just read Sarries board on this topic. A lot of support from
       other clubs for their fans and most Sarries posters accepting
       relegation but some additional nuggets in there from other
       sources. Apparently Sarries missed a deadline which was part of
       the verdict where they were to show books for this year and
       another snippet that they were £1.3 m over cap last year
       #Post#: 35875--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:22 am
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       and 1.2m the previous year (I think)!!
       #Post#: 35876--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Fursty
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:26 am
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       The Times reporting this morning that they’re on course to be
       over £1m over the cap this year unless they can shed players.
       Also stating that none of the other clubs feel overly inclined
       to help buyout contracts.
       #Post#: 35877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: stoquin
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:35 am
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       If clubs are already paying up to the cap, like us and prob a
       few others, then it is impossible to take any Sarries player. If
       they are available next season then a lot of players in other
       league clubs may well find their contracts not being renewed
       because of the fire sale as they all abandon ship
       #Post#: 35878--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Cookie
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:36 am
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       Also hear that while Sarries were BSing about the accounting
       'misunderstanding' with the co-investments, the other clubs were
       reading the judgment which, by all accounts, is extremely ugly
       reading for Sarries.
       #Post#: 35879--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:37 am
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       --- Quote from: quins4life link ---
       >
       > Just to put it out there, I’m so so so glad that that Sarries
       are having the book thrown at them. They’ve cheated, proclaimed
       innocence, not accepted the punishment, then they finally
       accepted it. They deserve it. I include the management staff
       (McCall, Sanderson etc) and the players. The fact they haven’t
       had the finger pointed at them bemuses me slightly. They are
       just as guilty as Wray.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I can't agree with that, it makes no sense. This is all on Wray.
       What's amazing is that it took employing the services of a
       global powerhouse in financial/business consulting to convince
       him that he's the bad egg in the whole sorry saga and that he
       should naff off and take his arrogance and lack of integrity
       with him.
       #Post#: 35881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:39 am
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       This sudden glut of players will only demonstrate the artificial
       inflation of player wages that Sarries have caused by their lack
       of adherence to the cap. This will have negatively impacted all
       the other clubs in terms of what they can afford.
       #Post#: 35882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:41 am
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       I wonder if Jones will be on the times rugby Podcast to defend
       Saracens. Saracens - the saviour of English rugby - seem to have
       no defence and will go down if the rumours are true but I do not
       understand what is happening as Jones said Saracens players
       would play for far below market value just to put on a Saracens
       shirt. Has Wray built and then destroyed a club?
       #Post#: 35883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
       >
       > I can't agree with that, it makes no sense. This is all on
       Wray. What's amazing is that it took employing the services of a
       global powerhouse in financial/business consulting to convince
       him that he's the bad egg in the whole sorry saga and that he
       should naff off and take his arrogance and lack of integrity
       with him.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I disagree. Wray was the instigator but I cannot believe players
       like Farrell did not think he was doing something wrong taking
       Wrays dodgy 'investment' money.
       #Post#: 35884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: January 17, 2020, 3:45 am
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       Farrell, and other players, could think all they liked, but
       unless they knew all the details of every players' contract, and
       had access to a calculator, then that's all they could do -
       think.
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