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       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: jh292
       Date: January 20, 2020, 4:01 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > I have also read about the salary cap rule - but, I can't find
       any evidence.  I downloaded the tournament rules from the RFU
       website - but couldn't see anything.
       > Does anyone actually know the situation for how many seasons
       Sarries will have to play in the Championship?
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       From what FF is saying, they could change the rule, but if they
       don't it looks like 2 years I guess
       #Post#: 36329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 20, 2020, 4:12 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > I have also read about the salary cap rule - but, I can't find
       any evidence.  I downloaded the tournament rules from the RFU
       website - but couldn't see anything.
       > Does anyone actually know the situation for how many seasons
       Sarries will have to play in the Championship?
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       It's on Page 37, ns.
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       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: January 20, 2020, 4:31 am
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       So, it is likely that to be promoted at the end of the 2020-21
       season, Saracens will need to provide evidence of compliance for
       the 2018-19 and 2019-20 seasons.
       I think we know that they didn't comply in the 2018-19 season.
       I think that they are unlikely to comply this season.
       It could therefore be that they may need to wait until the
       2022-23 before they can be promoted.
       This raises a few points:
       1. There is basically ring-fencing on the premiership until
       Sarries get promoted again
       2. Sarries may have issues with their finances if they continue
       to spend big in the championship for a number of seasons as
       there is less TV money, etc.
       They have got to hope that Wray bank rolls them for the next few
       years. I know that he is wealthy, but he doesn't have access to
       a magic money tree.
       3. There are reports about them wanting to sell the club.  This
       doesn't look like a wise investment opportunity in my opinion.
       #Post#: 36332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 20, 2020, 4:38 am
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       It does mean (if true) that at the end of next season we could
       see Ealing or Pirates come up for a season...
       #Post#: 36336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Mandator
       Date: January 20, 2020, 4:49 am
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       Re Ealing and Cornish their existing ground does not qualify for
       Premiership status. Perhaps they will do a London Welsh and move
       their games to a Football stadium?
       #Post#: 36343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: Aha!
       Date: January 20, 2020, 5:10 am
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       The Premiership, who by many accounts have been turning a blind
       eye to this for years, have decided they don’t want to sort out
       their own mess and instead decided to dump it into the
       Championship.
       Ampthill had 77 points put past them this weekend – do they
       really want to play Saracens next year? Are Ealing, Pirates, and
       Coventry going to bother investing for promotion next year?
       I don’t know the answer, but the arrogance of the Premiership
       beggers belief. Did Premiership even speak to Championship
       before dumping in their garden?
       Unlikely – 18 months ago (when Ealing were a realistic
       prospective Premiership side) McCafferty said “Just to be very
       clear, I don't know the Ealing set-up and I don't know the
       people there.”
       #Post#: 36344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: January 20, 2020, 5:14 am
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       It does look like Saracens will be down for two years. I did not
       realise that. The blatant actions by Wray really have hit the
       club.
       #Post#: 36345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: January 20, 2020, 5:19 am
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       > I’ve just discovered that there is a rugby club out west
       called Exeter Saracens. I bet they wish they had chosen
       something else now.
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       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: January 20, 2020, 5:20 am
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       --- Quote from: harlequins link ---
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       > It does look like Saracens will be down for two years. I did
       not realise that. The blatant actions by Wray really have hit
       the club.
       >
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       If that is true and Saracens fully understood it, then they must
       have really not wanted to open their books to PRL!
       #Post#: 36347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saracens facing automatic relegation....
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: January 20, 2020, 5:26 am
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
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       > If that is true and Saracens fully understood it, then they
       must have really not wanted to open their books to PRL!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The scale of their salary cap cheating must be huge. Jones,
       Sunday Times, has said though the players would have played for
       nothing so it must all have gone on tea and biscuits.
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