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       #Post#: 3180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 12:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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       > [quote author=TomBuckQuin link=topic=217.msg3170#msg3170
       date=1534434255]
       > Danny's posted on Twitter:
  HTML https://twitter.com/DannyCipriani87
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       > Looks like it's all been blown out of proportion in the press
       - surprise, surprise...
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       --- End Quote ---
       Sure it’s the press. They made up what the police charged him
       with and how he pleaded guilty.
       [/quote]
       Funny, I don't remember saying that at all. There were reports
       in the press of him punching/striking police though - it was
       made to sound like he was much more the aggressor than it seems
       he was, because of course we know his history and we'll be
       easily led to believe he's more villain than idiot. What he was
       was definitely idiot, don't get me wrong.
       #Post#: 3182--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 1:24 pm
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       Well they had charged him with assaulting an officer.
       His statement as reported in the guardian and elsewhere is
       saying how sorry he is and how wrong it all was.....
       #Post#: 3184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: August 16, 2018, 1:32 pm
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       Storm in a coffee mug in terms of the actual offences. In the
       context of being a high profile sportsman - very stupid boy. I
       think Glos fining him would be a satisfactory punishment in
       terms of club action though. I expect Eddie will pick him if he
       feels he'll add something to the England team/squad.
       #Post#: 3185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: D-Quins
       Date: August 16, 2018, 1:45 pm
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       Important to remember what the out come was he was found guilty
       of:
       common assault - trying to grab a body camera off a doorman
       resisting arrest - don't slip your handcuffs idiot
       Three other charges - assault on police, larceny and being
       disorderly on licensed premises - were dropped.
       Storm in a tea cup but stupid if you are an England player with
       a reputation you are trying to put behind you
       #Post#: 3186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: August 16, 2018, 1:52 pm
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       Were the charges dropped because they were difficult to prove,
       or the police/CPS thought they had enough with the other
       charges? I mean it seems by any account he was disorderly on
       licensed premises at least! He bruised the arm and neck of the
       policewoman, that's assault as far as I understand the legal
       term to be. You can assault someone by shouting at them! And if
       he didn't pay for the bottle of vodka he tried to remove, that's
       larceny.
       #Post#: 3188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: August 16, 2018, 2:15 pm
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       You don't have to hit a police officer to be charged with
       assault. If you resist arrest you automatically commit the
       offence of "assault on a police officer". Depending on your
       previous and the situation surrounding it the police will decide
       to charge or not.
       #Post#: 3189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: guest202
       Date: August 16, 2018, 3:27 pm
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       If you resist arrest you automatically commit the offence of
       "assault on a police officer"
       Were on earth did you get that from?
       #Post#: 3193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 4:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
       >
       > Were the charges dropped because they were difficult to prove,
       or the police/CPS thought they had enough with the other
       charges? I mean it seems by any account he was disorderly on
       licensed premises at least! He bruised the arm and neck of the
       policewoman, that's assault as far as I understand the legal
       term to be. You can assault someone by shouting at them! And if
       he didn't pay for the bottle of vodka he tried to remove, that's
       larceny.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They decided only to pursue those and he agrees to plead guilty.
       #Post#: 3198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: Chris1850
       Date: August 16, 2018, 5:05 pm
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       Just to be clear
       1. If you resist arrest, you do not automatically commit the
       offence of assault PC
       2. Shouting at somebody does not constitute assault. Though it
       may be a Public Order offence depending on the circumstances,
       what was said and whether the victim felt harrassed/threatened
       etc
       #Post#: 3201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Cipriani charged with assaulting police 
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 6:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chris1850 link ---
       >
       > Just to be clear
       > 1. If you resist arrest, you do not automatically commit the
       offence of assault PC
       > 2. Shouting at somebody does not constitute assault. Though it
       may be a Public Order offence depending on the circumstances,
       what was said and whether the victim felt harrassed/threatened
       etc
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Who let this guy in with all his facts?
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