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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: January 17, 2020, 8:33 am
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--- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
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> Ive said this for a While now. Would not put Marler in that
bracket but others yes.
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Me too - I'd also certainly exclude Marler (except for those
silly yellow cards); Browny I'd keep too, but Care and Robshaw's
days are numbered and need "managing".
Need a quality SH for the future, though.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: January 17, 2020, 8:49 am
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DAre i say it, I even thought we held on to a few others for too
long...Nev, Ugo (guessing they were also on big bucks)
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: Rocker
Date: January 17, 2020, 9:11 am
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Yes I can't imagine that Care and Robshaw are cheap, neither is
quite the force they were, it will be interesting to see how
MB15 comes back, he will have been out for a long time...
Marler is still one of the best LH in the country, I'd not want
to see him go. I would though like to see less brain fart Yellow
cards...
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: January 17, 2020, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
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> Me too - I'd also certainly exclude Marler (except for those
silly yellow cards); Browny I'd keep too, but Care and Robshaw's
days are numbered and need "managing".
>
> Need a quality SH for the future, though.
>
--- End Quote ---
Marler is probably better for England than for Quins, and has
been dumb for us too often. Still a fine player who I very much
want at the club, but he is going to be on a lot of money and
are we getting value for money?
Brown has been an absolute hero for Quins but in the last few
years he's spent a lot of time either injured or playing very,
very poorly.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: January 17, 2020, 9:17 am
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It's a bit of a guessing game though. Haskell at Saints was on
the same as he earned at Wasps as a 21 year old. I appreciate he
had injury worries when he moved to Saints but I was reading
elsewhere recently about how players' wages tend to drop down to
very low levels as they extend their careers well into their
30s. I expect it's a steady drop as well, rather than say going
from 250k one year to 50k the next. I suppose I'm wondering if
players like Brown, Care and Robshaw are already on smaller
wages than previously.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: January 17, 2020, 9:24 am
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its only a rumour but it goes - Robshaw is on 330k, Quins would
like him to drop to around 200k for a new deal
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: January 17, 2020, 10:07 am
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--- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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> It's a bit of a guessing game though. Haskell at Saints was on
the same as he earned at Wasps as a 21 year old. I appreciate he
had injury worries when he moved to Saints but I was reading
elsewhere recently about how players' wages tend to drop down to
very low levels as they extend their careers well into their
30s. I expect it's a steady drop as well, rather than say going
from 250k one year to 50k the next. I suppose I'm wondering if
players like Brown, Care and Robshaw are already on smaller
wages than previously.
>
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Haskell was clearly at the end of the road and was done as an
international - I can't imagine the current deals for Brown,
Care and Robshaw are in the "obviously post international"
bracket yet.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: January 17, 2020, 10:11 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
>
> Marler is probably better for England than for Quins, and has
been dumb for us too often. Still a fine player who I very much
want at the club, but he is going to be on a lot of money and
are we getting value for money?
>
> Brown has been an absolute hero for Quins but in the last few
years he's spent a lot of time either injured or playing very,
very poorly.
>
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Do you think he's better for England because of those behind him
or do you regard it as a motivational thing? I think/hope he'll
continue to improve his play/attitude: I'd pay for him until he
wants out or he runs out of gas.
Perhaps Brown will be rejuvenated after a long layoff - he may
have been below his standards in the last few seasons, but if
the rest of the squad can start to play to their potential, I
think he'll have the desire to continue as I can't see him going
anywhere else.
If Brown's wages can be managed downwards and Marler can be
persuaded to be cool, then we'll get value for money from them,
I suspect. But I don't think Marler needs to be faced with a
wage downgrade for a number of years yet - he's still 29 (30
this summer), so a good 3-5 years left on his card, at a time
when props are supposed to be at their best.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: January 17, 2020, 10:13 am
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Maybe not but their next ones surely will be, assuming they
stay.
Re: Honky's post - 200k seems like a lot of salary for this
stage of Robshaw's career.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: January 17, 2020, 10:19 am
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I must stress it was only a rumour
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