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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: January 17, 2020, 8:33 am
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       --- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
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       > Ive said this for a While now.  Would not put Marler in that
       bracket but others yes.
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       --- End Quote ---
       Me too - I'd also certainly exclude Marler (except for those
       silly yellow cards); Browny I'd keep too, but Care and Robshaw's
       days are numbered and need "managing".
       Need a quality SH for the future, though.
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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: January 17, 2020, 8:49 am
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       DAre i say it, I even thought we held on to a few others for too
       long...Nev, Ugo (guessing they were also on big bucks)
       #Post#: 35955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: January 17, 2020, 9:11 am
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       Yes I can't imagine that Care and Robshaw are cheap, neither is
       quite the force they were, it will be interesting to see how
       MB15 comes back, he will have been out for a long time...
       Marler is still one of the best LH in the country, I'd not want
       to see him go. I would though like to see less brain fart Yellow
       cards...
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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 17, 2020, 9:15 am
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
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       > Me too - I'd also certainly exclude Marler (except for those
       silly yellow cards); Browny I'd keep too, but Care and Robshaw's
       days are numbered and need "managing".
       >
       > Need a quality SH for the future, though.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Marler is probably better for England than for Quins, and has
       been dumb for us too often. Still a fine player who I very much
       want at the club, but he is going to be on a lot of money and
       are we getting value for money?
       Brown has been an absolute hero for Quins but in the last few
       years he's spent a lot of time either injured or playing very,
       very poorly.
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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: January 17, 2020, 9:17 am
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       It's a bit of a guessing game though. Haskell at Saints was on
       the same as he earned at Wasps as a 21 year old. I appreciate he
       had injury worries when he moved to Saints but I was reading
       elsewhere recently about how players' wages tend to drop down to
       very low levels as they extend their careers well into their
       30s. I expect it's a steady drop as well, rather than say going
       from 250k one year to 50k the next. I suppose I'm wondering if
       players like Brown, Care and Robshaw are already on smaller
       wages than previously.
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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: January 17, 2020, 9:24 am
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       its only a rumour but it goes -  Robshaw is on 330k, Quins would
       like him to drop to around 200k for a new deal
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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 17, 2020, 10:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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       > It's a bit of a guessing game though. Haskell at Saints was on
       the same as he earned at Wasps as a 21 year old. I appreciate he
       had injury worries when he moved to Saints but I was reading
       elsewhere recently about how players' wages tend to drop down to
       very low levels as they extend their careers well into their
       30s. I expect it's a steady drop as well, rather than say going
       from 250k one year to 50k the next. I suppose I'm wondering if
       players like Brown, Care and Robshaw are already on smaller
       wages than previously.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Haskell was clearly at the end of the road and was done as an
       international - I can't imagine the current deals for Brown,
       Care and Robshaw are in the "obviously post international"
       bracket yet.
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       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: January 17, 2020, 10:11 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Marler is probably better for England than for Quins, and has
       been dumb for us too often. Still a fine player who I very much
       want at the club, but he is going to be on a lot of money and
       are we getting value for money?
       >
       > Brown has been an absolute hero for Quins but in the last few
       years he's spent a lot of time either injured or playing very,
       very poorly.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you think he's better for England because of those behind him
       or do you regard it as a motivational thing? I think/hope he'll
       continue to improve his play/attitude: I'd pay for him until he
       wants out or he runs out of gas.
       Perhaps Brown will be rejuvenated after a long layoff - he may
       have been below his standards in the last few seasons, but if
       the rest of the squad can start to play to their potential, I
       think he'll have the desire to continue as I can't see him going
       anywhere else.
       If Brown's wages can be managed downwards and Marler can be
       persuaded to be cool, then we'll get value for money from them,
       I suspect. But I don't think Marler needs to be faced with a
       wage downgrade for a number of years yet - he's still 29 (30
       this summer), so a good 3-5 years left on his card, at a time
       when props are supposed to be at their best.
       #Post#: 35980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: January 17, 2020, 10:13 am
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       Maybe not but their next ones surely will be, assuming they
       stay.
       Re: Honky's post -  200k seems like a lot of salary for this
       stage of Robshaw's career.
       #Post#: 35981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: January 17, 2020, 10:19 am
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       I must stress it was only a rumour
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