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       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: August 16, 2018, 3:33 am
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       I thought it was Barnes but wasn't certain.
       #Post#: 3093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: stoquin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 4:06 am
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       Having read all the thread I have been persuaded by the
       discussion to go with Bothma, lets hope PG agrees with me!
       #Post#: 3099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: August 16, 2018, 4:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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       > [quote author=DOK link=topic=215.msg3064#msg3064
       date=1534405399]
       > It also comes down to position. A scrum half can always get in
       the ref's ear. It's harder for the wing/FB if you have to run in
       to talk to him every time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Also (again I do love MB but)....he doesn't have the temperament
       to talk to sir. We'd end up getting marched back when the red
       mist descends.
       [/quote]
       Mike Brown's red mist is a myth. Look at his disciplinary record
       - I'd be willing to bet that there have been more yellow cards
       issued for fouls *on* Mike Brown than for fouls *by* Mike Brown.
       He's shouty and passionate and doesn't tolerate poor performance
       - but he also has an incredibly well-developed sense of where
       the line is and how not to cross it. I think that's one of the
       reasons opposing teams hate him so much: it looks like he's
       going to fall foul of the ref, but he almost never does because
       he stops exactly where the boundary falls.
       I would have no concerns about him talking to the ref. I'd be
       more worried that fullback is just not the best position to be
       influencing the ref, and you run the risk of being out of
       position.
       #Post#: 3112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Samquin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 5:48 am
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       My preference for captain is a player who is around through the
       season and not on international call.
       #Post#: 3114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Cookie
       Date: August 16, 2018, 6:01 am
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       Not sure we have many whose place is unchallenged and not an
       international. Is Horwill’s season being tainted with the lack
       of coaching nouse and fitness that plagued the whole team?
       I’d want to see Bothma string a couple of months rugby together
       before making him captain. He certainly has potential, but can’t
       see what he’s proved that makes him captaincy material. I’d
       stick with Horwill this season.
       #Post#: 3116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: August 16, 2018, 6:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Cookie link ---
       >
       > Not sure we have many whose place is unchallenged and not an
       international. Is Horwill’s season being tainted with the lack
       of coaching nouse and fitness that plagued the whole team?
       >
       > I’d want to see Bothma string a couple of months rugby
       together before making him captain. He certainly has potential,
       but can’t see what he’s proved that makes him captaincy
       material. I’d stick with Horwill this season.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Bothma leads from the front. He's very much in the thick of it
       and makes some very hard yards. The kind of guy you want on your
       side in a battle.
       If he stays fit, I think he'll be a key player this season. I
       hope his arm stays in one piece, although it seems to be more
       titanium than bone these days.
       #Post#: 3117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: August 16, 2018, 6:41 am
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       Lets hope he does not rust
       #Post#: 3120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 7:03 am
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       as long as he keeps it well oiled it will be fine
       #Post#: 3121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Chipstead Quin
       Date: August 16, 2018, 7:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Cookie link ---
       >
       > Not sure we have many whose place is unchallenged and not an
       international. Is Horwill’s season being tainted with the lack
       of coaching nouse and fitness that plagued the whole team?
       >
       > I’d want to see Bothma string a couple of months rugby
       together before making him captain. He certainly has potential,
       but can’t see what he’s proved that makes him captaincy
       material. I’d stick with Horwill this season.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree Cookie , whilst Horwill didn't appear particularly
       effective last year , he was plagued by personal injury and a
       team lacking confidence in the second half of the season . He
       was deemed by experienced management to be good enough to
       skipper the Wallabies before Quins , so I'm sure he must have
       all the right qualities.
       Bothma ( again as an International Capt) will be a future
       leader , but I would like to see him get a successful season
       under his belt and concentrate on his own game .
       If Gustard is naming 2 , then I wouldn't surprised to see Danny
       Care in the mix especially if it becomes more apparent that his
       England career has stalled.
       #Post#: 3122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
   DIR By: Cookie
       Date: August 16, 2018, 7:10 am
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       Bothma has played 6 games. Six! Let him concentrate on playing
       regularly and proving he’s as good as some thing. He doesn’t
       need the captaincy and we have better candidates.
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