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#Post#: 33510--------------------------------------------------
Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Chipstead Quin
Date: December 14, 2019, 4:36 am
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--- Quote from: Domestos link ---
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> Kyle Sinckler was subbed/game changed in the second half. He
didn't sit down with the the other subs/game changers, but stood
leaning on the wall leading into the player's tunnel.
>
> He looked very unhappy. Wasn't speaking to anyone. Just fed up
with the way the game was turning out, or dreaming of playing
for Bristol?
>
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Probably reflecting on his win ratio as a Capt !
Doesn't matter how good bad or indifferent a player is , if he
doesn't want to give 100% for his shirt he needs to go .
Hopefully whatever is going to happen with him is sorted out
quickly so we can either get behind him or wave him goodbye and
wish him well .
#Post#: 33511--------------------------------------------------
Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Quinston Churchill
Date: December 14, 2019, 4:47 am
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--- Quote from: Chipstead Quin link ---
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> Im not sure why PG would target this game when the priority
surely needs to be the next two Prem games .
>
> It highlights we don't have strength in depth especially as
some of our 'better' squad players are injured .
>
> 3-3 at 39 mins against a full strength Ulster side , 10-24
with less than 10 mins and there was still hope , but then
silly penalties , overthrows and dropped balls in the rain ,
heads dropped and we gifted them a couple of easy run ins .
>
> Tough to watch but I don't think there is any shame to losing
to that team .
>
> At least 8 points against Wasps and Tigers and we will all be
jolly again ! ( for a while )
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I don’t think anyone was suggested we should ‘target this game’.
I think it’s more a case of being disappointed by the lack of
ambition. Picking the side we did effectively handed Ulster the
game before we’d even kicked-off. Our first team wasn’t quite
good enough to beat them so why would anyone think our reserves
could do it?
I understand we are prioritising the Premiership games following
our poor start, but what is the point of striving to get in to
the Champions Cup all season and then putting out a reserve team
for a home game when you can still qualify.
If Sinckler is heading off to Bristol, I don’t blame him. They
are a club on the up and I can understand why the positivity,
ambition and playing style would be attractive. A very marked
contrast to how I feel about Quins at the moment.
#Post#: 33512--------------------------------------------------
Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: December 14, 2019, 4:49 am
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He didnt look happy during the game and most of that seemed to
be directed at the ref. Threw his arms up in the air a few
times at a couple of "dubious" decisions against us.
#Post#: 33513--------------------------------------------------
Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Albig
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:01 am
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You can not judge a English team success based on European
rugby. Only Saracens have competed on two fronts - and we know
how - in the last 5 years. Considering we probably only had 4
dead certs in the starting 15 from our best possible team - I
thought for 50 mins against an organised side we did well. This
squad and side is much better than under JK. Ross had a shocker,
Dombrandt was poor, and lots of handling errors but until subs
came on we still had a chance. base team on domestic rugby not
Europe.
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Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Twickersman
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:23 am
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Counldnt agree more with your summary. Now is not the time to
get rid of Gustard.
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Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Quinky
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:26 am
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--- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
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> I didnt have a problem with the team selection myself. In all
reality we were unlikely to go through given the first 3 games.
An outside chance but unlikely. Had we won last week it would
have changed everything but we did not. I get the argument
about "why play all year to come 6th and then not take the comp
serious" but we did take it serious, and messed it up last week
(and too a degree in Clermont).
>
> Robshaw and Care cant play every week (I actually wonder if
Care is able to last 80 mins now). The rest of the squad need
to start stepping up and taking responsibility
>
> The only area that had me worried was the half backs. In the
end we never saw much of Herron and I thought Landajo was an
improvement on his previous efforts (lets hope that continues).
Not too sure I see the merit in getting rid of Gustard myself.
I still think he will do a good job for us.
>
> I think our "Skills" coach needs to start earning his money as
some of our passing was terrible (but to add some was also very
good). Ellias throwing was on the money which was great, Lewies
is coming into his own and Semi was everywhere (Although him and
Cavubati seem inclined to give away daft pens for no reason).
>
> I also expect Semi will be on the naughty step for a bit as he
blatantly had his hand over the Ulsters players face during the
maul near the end. No gounging but a silly and needless thing
to do.
>
> Im looking forward to getting back to league action next week.
As it stands, I dont think we have the squad to compete on two
levels and would prefer some league consistency and us to try
and establish ourselves as top 4 contenders.
>
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I wish I could like this post twice. One of the few sensible
posts on this thread.
#Post#: 33519--------------------------------------------------
Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Quinky
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:27 am
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I love threads like this. Where were the same naysayers after
the two recent wins?
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Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: MadMax
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:28 am
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> Get rid of the clown now
>
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I agree Bish. When are you going?
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Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Quinky
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:29 am
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> I agree Bish. When are you going?
>
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I think we should have a referendum to give Bish his
independence...
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Re: Utter disappointment and a complete disgrace
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:40 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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> I think we should have a referendum to give Bish his
independence...
>
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Somehow I have the feeling that the result would be 52:48!
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