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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: DazzaS
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:34 am
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HTML https://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/premiership-rugby-statement-decision-on-salary-cap-charges
Link from Premiership Rugby website.
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:39 am
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--- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
>
> I actually feel sympathy for the Saracens supporters. It is
natural for them to deny it,. They lvoe their club, travelled
with them, watched them lift trophies and have built memories.
for anyone on the outside to point fingers and say "thats all
built on a lie" would be hard tot ake so will defend the club.
>
> Those people now have tarnished memories that were all built
on a lie. Of cours eus on the outisde can see it, we know what a
club costs to run and how Quins let players go and struggled
during internationals, but if you are in it, do not look into
the detal and just want to support a club that give you that
weekend of joy.
>
> I say feel sympathy for the conned, feel contemption for the
con artists.
>
> Surely the board have to resign on mass for this.
>
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Thing for me is, you could be the most loyal Sarries supporter
going, but you would only have to look at the squad and say
"Hmmm even I think we could be pushing it". Rumours have been
around for years and yet they were so sure (to the point of
cocky/arrogant) that they were whiter than white etc. It will
be hard for the fans but no one can really be surprised.
Not a good day for rugby. I can see this lasting a while. Here
is the club statement -
HTML https://www.saracens.com/club-statement-salary-cap/
Does not seem like they will take this lying down.
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:40 am
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Alastair Eykyn does not seem too sympathetic!!!
HTML https://twitter.com/alastaireykyn
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: Fursty
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:42 am
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From Nigel Wray
FOR OVER 25 YEARS, I HAVE PUT MY HEART AND SOUL INTO THE GAME I
LOVE. TOGETHER WE HAVE CREATED SOMETHING INCREDIBLY SPECIAL WITH
THE SARACENS FAMILY, BOTH ON AND OFF THE FIELD.
This is absolutely devastating for everyone associated with this
amazing group of players, staff, partners and fans. It has been
acknowledged by the Panel that we never deliberately sought to
mislead anyone or breach the cap and that’s why it feels like
the rug is being completely pulled out from under our feet. We
will appeal all the findings.
And official club statement
SARACENS RUGBY CLUB IS SHOCKED AND DISAPPOINTED BY THESE
HEAVY-HANDED SANCTIONS AND WILL LAUNCH AN APPEAL AGAINST ALL THE
DISCIPLINARY PANEL’S FINDINGS.
The Club is pleased the Panel acknowledged it did not
deliberately attempt to breach the salary cap and steadfastly
maintains that player co-investments do not constitute salary
under the regulations. This view is supported by independent
legal and professional experts.
The Club will continue to vigorously defend this position
especially as PRL precedent already exists whereby
co-investments have not been deemed part of salary in the
regulations.
As previously stated, the Club made administrative errors
relating to the non-disclosure of some transactions to PRL and
for this we apologise. We are pleased to confirm we now have a
robust governance framework in place and this will be overseen
by an external counsel to ensure the Club follows best practice.
Furthermore, it is the Club’s belief that the Panel’s narrow
interpretation of the regulations is detrimental to player
welfare across the league and is damaging the development of
elite level rugby in the UK.
Saracens is proud of its pioneering, innovative approach to
player welfare, developing their talents and supporting their
entrepreneurial spirit for life beyond rugby.
Couldn't make it up - they've been caught red handed and are
still denying it.
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:43 am
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"Pioneering"
"Innovative"
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:43 am
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ShabbyCens....da management that is..
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:44 am
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Feel sorry for some of the fans, not for others.
Few on twitter already saying that Bloodgate was worse, because
it was a player and coaches cheating, not the money men, and the
players and coaches should be role models, so we should have
been punished more and them less. Bit desperate.
Far too many of them refused to acknowledge that there was even
a hint of suspicious activity and that other clubs were just
jealous, etc.
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: Scamble
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:44 am
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I'll just leave this thread here.....
HTML https://www.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read/s104.htm?107,16597919
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: gregory p
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:46 am
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Any statement that includes the works "vigorously defend" has
been written by lawyers. This will run and run and someone in
the City will make a good fee out of it. The attached flier is
now much less libellous!
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: Salarycens
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: November 5, 2019, 5:47 am
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Why did the panel find that they didn't deliberately seek to
breach the cap, when they clearly did.
They did it before and threatened to destroy the premiership
with legal action if they were punished. Should have learnt
their lesson then, but they thought that gave them carte blanche
to do it again and do whatever they liked. Now they've been
caught and are amazed that the premiership would have the
temerity to dish out a proper punishment against the mighty
saracens, saviour of the england team, sole premiership flag
bearer in europe, etc
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