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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: November 3, 2019, 7:57 am
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       > Also talking about losing Liam Williams as will not be able to
       afford to keep him
       > And Sivo not joining as won’t be able to afford him
       > This really is starting to stink
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       he has also been offered huge money by Montpelier and Wales
       want him back!
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: November 3, 2019, 10:26 am
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       Sarries board have got a piece from rugby pass on their site
       forecasting 35 points deduction for £650,000 overspend. Sarries
       site asking for incoming from other Clubs to bear in mind they
       are only supporters. Did they do that for the event that we
       don’t name? Perhaps someone cleverer than me can post. Forecast
       is Tuesday announcement
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   DIR By: Monte
       Date: November 3, 2019, 10:36 am
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 3, 2019, 11:27 am
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 3, 2019, 4:08 pm
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       I think an effective punishment would be to strip them of any
       silverware won during the period of the proven breach. But I
       can't see it happening. Still, it's nice that the fans on their
       BB ask people to go easy on them (if my understanding is
       correct. I'm sure that nobody will take the p* out of them at
       all; not until all of the low-flying pigs have landed...
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 3, 2019, 4:25 pm
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       We'll be really hurt.
       Good.
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: November 4, 2019, 1:55 am
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       I have a feeling of sympathy for the Sarries fans' plea to not
       jump all over them. It's one thing to lambast their club here,
       should it prove to be in the wrong. However it's quite
       provocative to go over to their fans site and start shouting
       about it. The Saracens fans I have met are true rugby
       supporters, and I'm sure they'll not be happy with any underhand
       manipulation of the salary cap. And it's not as if the fans had
       any say in what went on, anymore than we got asked if we were
       happy with the team using joke shop blood capsules to manipulate
       the substitution rule.
       #Post#: 30305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Guildford Quin
       Date: November 4, 2019, 2:12 am
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       Like most clubs they have a mixture of loyal & knowledgable fans
       and some less so- I've experienced both first hand. I think they
       attracted more than their fair share of 'johnny come lately'
       trophy hunters because of their enduring success too. I
       empathise with their genuine long-standing fans though who have
       committed no crime other than paying for their annual season
       ticket and getting behind their team. If Sarries do receive the
       punishments rumoured, I imagine Wray will stick two fingers up
       at the Prem and it will probably just precipitate an
       Anglo-French (+SA ?) superleague.
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: November 4, 2019, 3:56 am
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       Well with Finance director already gone and the Commercial
       Property Investor also last week they are preparing to spin
       something. . . . . My violin will be at the ready.
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Quin Kong
       Date: November 4, 2019, 5:27 am
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       > Like most clubs they have a mixture of loyal & knowledgable
       fans and some less so- I've experienced both first hand. I think
       they attracted more than their fair share of 'johnny come
       lately' trophy hunters because of their enduring success too. I
       empathise with their genuine long-standing fans though who have
       committed no crime other than paying for their annual season
       ticket and getting behind their team. If Sarries do receive the
       punishments rumoured, I imagine Wray will stick two fingers up
       at the Prem and it will probably just precipitate an
       Anglo-French (+SA ?) superleague.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They’d have to persuade a couple of other clubs to join them
       (Bath and Bristol spring to mind) which is the easy part. Then
       they’d have to persuade the RFU to the new competition which is
       harder. Then they’d need to be prepared to be sued to the nth by
       CVC for devaluing their product. That is going to be a lot of
       money and time and probably not worth it in the long run.
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