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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Sketchley
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:05 am
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       Imagine being a Sarries player who wasn't in on this . You would
       be feeling pretty pissed off this morning knowing some of your
       team mates got more money and your going to have to pay the
       price with 35 point deduction. Unlikely to win much this year. A
       quick glance says that would have meant 10th last year, if they
       don't win EPRC then no Champions cup for them next year as well.
       As a result of this players most likely end up on less when they
       move. Particularly if fire sale to reduce the squad.
       Were the players agents in on this? Did they know players where
       getting extra, did they get thier %?
       #Post#: 30440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: quintastic.
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:12 am
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       Will Greenwood being very defensive of Sarries on sky sports
       news, massively playing it down talking about how good of a guy
       Nigel Wray is. Take his quarters away!  >:(
       #Post#: 30441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:24 am
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       --- Quote from: quintastic. link ---
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       > Will Greenwood being very defensive of Sarries on sky sports
       news, massively playing it down talking about how good of a guy
       Nigel Wray is. Take his quarters away!  >:(
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He was one of the pundits who fawned over wray's press release a
       while ago. Everyone greenwood meets is s rockstar or a
       superstar. Hard to take him seriously these days
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > My mistake. Was it always so?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I believe the winner from previous years was always
       automatically in the next seasons' competition. It was changed
       more recently to add in the sub-clauses regarding the Challenge
       Cup Finalists.
       #Post#: 30443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:26 am
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       So here's the thing: these findings relate to PAST seasons, so
       that means the strong likelihood is (must be?) that many (most?)
       of those arrangements are still in place for the current season
       and hence their overall remuneration spending will be not
       dissimilar to last season's.
       So ... at the end of this season they will be found to have
       breached the cap AGAIN ... yes?
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:37 am
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       Yes. They have to release players or come up with some wonderful
       reason why they are not continuing to break the cap. If they
       don't then it has to be a case of being thrown out of the
       league.
       #Post#: 30445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:37 am
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       I doubt any of the Clubs could employ any of the players this
       year from Saracens except for injury cover as they will be at or
       near salary cap. For anyone who sympathise with its supporters
       just read the vitriol on twitter about us and you know what and
       how our players were involved. You think of Deano’s Wilderness
       years, but compared with this it was tiny. My faith in rugby
       restored and we can now continue next season  with a level
       playing field.
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: Sketchley
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:42 am
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       If they off load players they will likely pay compensation for
       breach of contract if they release any players. Such payments
       will need to be included in salary cap spend and it would at
       least match current planned spend. I'm not sure they can get out
       of current season commitments that easily.
       Maybe they could loan players out and get some / all of salary
       paid, but were would they go? All other clubs have squad in
       place and are spending upto the cap or thier budget. As above
       just releasing them won't work as they will still have to pay
       them.
       Best they can hope is prem clubs needing injury cover or clubs
       outside of premiership wanting a cheap loan player etc.
       Either way it's a big mess and not over yet! I wouldn't be
       surprised to see squad moral hit hard and they get relegated.
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:54 am
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       They need to let players go - I know that is hard on the players
       - but can anyone think they did not know what the club was
       doing? Did Daly really think everything was within the salary
       cap after watching player after player turn up at Saracens? It
       is part of their responsibility to make sure your employee is
       not in breach of regulations...especially when everyone was very
       suspicious.
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       Re: Salarycens 
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: November 5, 2019, 7:59 am
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       Reading their board now, quite a few still seem to believe they
       did nothing wrong and the world is against them (unfairly)!!!
       Could be understandable when the club statement indicates the
       same.  Cookie going for it though!!!
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