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#Post#: 27754--------------------------------------------------
Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: DOK
Date: August 28, 2019, 11:18 am
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So says Ugo Monye
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49496887
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: August 28, 2019, 11:56 am
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I read this earlier. I'm really not sure what Ugo is going on
about.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: SCPurpleQuin
Date: August 28, 2019, 12:24 pm
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I am not Te'o's greatest fan but this article smacks of Ugo
wanting to poke him in the eye due to him being a big pal of
Brownie, and the bad blood over the recent incident.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: DOK
Date: August 28, 2019, 1:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
>
> I read this earlier. I'm really not sure what Ugo is going on
about.
>
--- End Quote ---
Really? I'm not going to quote it all, but it seemed pretty
clear to me.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: August 28, 2019, 1:34 pm
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Well yes, he's saying that a 32 year old player who hasn't made
the latest England squad, and probably won't again, should hang
around in the hope that a premiership club can sign him for a
pittance in the vain hope that he may replace an injured England
player in the RWC, and shouldn't have signed a deal for a
prestigious French club who are probably paying him good money.
Why that stinks I have no idea.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Quins Head
Date: August 28, 2019, 2:42 pm
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Do you really need it explaining to you
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Steevo
Date: August 28, 2019, 3:28 pm
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Ugo's well and truly backed the wrong horse here. Regardless of
whether or not I am a fan of Te'o's, I honestly can't blame him
for heading off to Toulon and then Japan. Eddie Jones has made
it clear that he's surplus to requirements and his (EJ's) track
record suggests that once he's made that decision you're done
and done - just ask Brownie. There is a very limited window of
opportunity for professional rugby players to make their money,
so why shouldn't Te'o grasp the nettle while he can? After all,
what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander: he owes
England Rugby the same as they owe him - naff all.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Teddington Taff
Date: August 28, 2019, 3:48 pm
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IMH I think that what he was saying was that for all the players
aspiring to get on the plane to Tokyo and those sitting at home
keeping fit incase of injuries and they get a call - its quite
disrespectful. Its not my home country but I think he has a
point about national pride. S Lancaster - in my opinion put the
pride back into the English shirt and you see it every time an
English team stands and sing the National Anthem. There is a
certain amount of pride and Nationalist fervour. Teo snubbed
all of that with his behaviour. Good for Ugo to stand up and
voice what I am sure quite a few pundits privately think.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Steevo
Date: August 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Teddington Taff link ---
>
> IMH I think that what he was saying was that for all the
players aspiring to get on the plane to Tokyo and those sitting
at home keeping fit incase of injuries and they get a call - its
quite disrespectful. Its not my home country but I think he has
a point about national pride. S Lancaster - in my opinion put
the pride back into the English shirt and you see it every time
an English team stands and sing the National Anthem. There is a
certain amount of pride and Nationalist fervour. Teo snubbed
all of that with his behaviour. Good for Ugo to stand up and
voice what I am sure quite a few pundits privately think.
>
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That's a point I guess, but equally why should Te'o sit at home
all full of hope and "maybe, just maybe" when Eddie Jones has
shown no faith or respect back? Money talks and at a point you
have to look after #1, national pride or otherwise.
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Re: Ben Te'o's Toulon switch stinks
DIR By: Everyone’s a Quinner
Date: August 28, 2019, 5:01 pm
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And further to TeddingtonQuins point I think Ugo is also hinting
at the disrespect shown towards Mike Brown personally (without
Ugo mentioning names). We don’t know the complete ins and outs
but the jist of it seems to be that Teo threw a tantrum of sorts
during a team building excercise, and when Mike Brown approached
Teo to calm him temper/told him to pack it in Teo socked him
one. I doubt that even if Brown had a sour impression of Teo
that he would knowingly jeopardise his own World Cup chances by
sorting out Teo and this is why I believe Brown tried to tell
Teo to stop playing up in a “teammate” type manner and Teo
didn’t take too well to this. Brown wasn’t expecting to get
lamped and now two good players miss out on a World Cup spot.
The thing Ugo points out here is that it’s a bit of a slap in
the face to Brown, who 1. Didn’t instigate the incident, 2. Got
punished for trying to (in his eyes) showcase good teammate
skills in trying to defuse the situation in a team building
exercise, and 3. Suffers harsh consequences. Brown loves more
than anything to play for his country and it really shows when
he does, he is desperate to get back into that England team and
I think it’s clear it’s been quite hard on him for missing out
because of this. Then there’s Teo who clearly doesn’t give two
rubber ducks about playing for England in the future (probably
only attended the selection process because of the £xx,000 per
game incentive and not for a genuine passion for playing for
England) decides to leave for France. It rubs salt into other
players wounds who missed out and shows he clearly doesn’t care
about being there and it clearly shows that he doesn’t deserve
to be. I completely get Ugo’s point
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