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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: August 9, 2019, 8:45 am
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I'm less concerned what Eddie has done with completely different
groups of players with completely different cultural mentalities
at completely different times and against completely different
opposition. I'm concerned about what he's done with England's
players - particularly over the last couple of years, which has
been inconsistent to say the least.
Not to be pessimistic but I'll be pleasantly surprised and will
gladly admit that I was wrong about Eddie if this England squad
end up in the final. Okay, I'm pessimistic.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: August 9, 2019, 9:00 am
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--- Quote from: GP2110 link ---
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> Quite, Deadly.
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> The reaction to the squad is, in my view, ridiculous.
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> If England don't make AT LEAST the semi finals, I will be very
surprised.
>
--- End Quote ---
They haven't announced the squad. And most of the reaction is
from people who only watch rugby twice a year and think Goode,
Wade and Kvesik are international standard players.
But I simply do not understand Heinz at all. Someone needs to
explain how you decide to drop Care (fair enough if that's what
happens) then you give a couple of other players no time at all,
then you ditch them both with three matches until the World Cup
and bring in....someone with no particular track record beyond
being a club standard starting 9.
#Post#: 27072--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: Chipstead Quin
Date: August 9, 2019, 10:06 am
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Who covers 10 if Capt Ford gets injured ? Wales back row will
be all over him .
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: GP2110
Date: August 9, 2019, 10:14 am
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If Ford gets injured, Slade moves to 10.
It's a warm up game - the side put out is nothing like the 15 we
will see in the WC
#Post#: 27075--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: August 9, 2019, 10:40 am
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--- Quote from: GP2110 link ---
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> If Ford gets injured, Slade moves to 10.
>
> It's a warm up game - the side put out is nothing like the 15
we will see in the WC
>
--- End Quote ---
Indeed, and anyone reacting with outrage across the broader side
being played for this specific match doesn't know much about
rugby.
But the Heinz and Francis stuff is just incomprehensible. They
add nothing that the squad didn't have/has got, it doesn't fit
with any tactic that I can work out - nor indeed many other
people.
What type of rugby does this side reflect? Why are we going into
yet another World Cup not knowing who is starting in the
centres.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: Monte
Date: August 9, 2019, 11:32 am
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Glad I have not gone to millennium stadium to see that lot play
hopefully proper A team once he has sorted out and announced
squad on Monday. He seems to be just concentrating on last few
places on Sunday. Like everyone else just don’t get Heinz.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: August 9, 2019, 12:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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> What type of rugby does this side reflect? Why are we going
into yet another World Cup not knowing who is starting in the
centres.
>
--- End Quote ---
This. Centre has been one of England's most unaddressed
weaknesses since the end of Tindall/Greenwood for me. I actually
think we've finally found a good partnership in 12 Tuilagi 13
Slade, but they haven't had a great number of games together and
the most obvious backup centre in the event of an injury -
Joseph - hasn't played much at all recently due to injury - let
alone in an England shirt. He's also only played a handful of
times with Tuilagi.
How, in any universe, is Piers Francis going to be the hero? Why
have others not been given game time in spite of the fact that
players like Marchant (and not just Marchant) have been
performing out of their skins for multiple seasons?
#Post#: 27084--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: August 9, 2019, 5:19 pm
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I thought the Ford, Farrell, Joseph line up was decent. And I
reckon you could swap Daly for Joseph and have a similar line
up.
Farrell, Tuilagi, Lozowski / Slade should work well too.
I get that the team for Sunday is not the final RWC squad and
not anything like our starting line up in going to be, but as
others have said, I still can't fathom the heinz and francis
selections.
Surprised to see Ewels involved too. Is someone other than Kruis
injured out of the usual 2nd row candidates?
#Post#: 27085--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: Twickersman
Date: August 10, 2019, 12:28 am
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Francis is a mental trainer, a guy who is better than he should
be, mentally going to super rugby and becoming a starter is to
be admired. He is not as talented as others but has impressed me
the. I have seen him play. He seems to want it a lot more than
other players (Teo) and this is his opportunity.
Re Heinz I can only think that Jones wants an experienced old
head a s a bench sitter. He doesn't have caps, but does bring an
older head to the game.
Not my ideal 15, but it is a trial and one that will make some
players and break others. Especially as Wales are playing a no 1
pack.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
DIR By: Chipstead Quin
Date: August 10, 2019, 7:28 am
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Interesting consequence of Wallabies beating Allblacks is that
if Wales win tomorrow they will go to number 1 in World rankings
.
AB's have been number 1 for last 10 years !
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