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England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: DOK
Date: July 7, 2019, 3:27 pm
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So say the Exeter chairman
HTML https://www.rugbypass.com/news/no-doubt-eddie-jones-and-england-will-bomb-at-rugby-world-cup-exeter-chairman
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: BedfordshireBoy
Date: July 7, 2019, 3:44 pm
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Sadly I think he may well be right, I still do not understand
some of the exclusions/inclusions.
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: Domestos
Date: July 8, 2019, 7:02 am
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Another 2015?
Quite possible. I certainly wouldn't be surprised.
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: marlowish
Date: July 8, 2019, 7:14 am
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yes the performances of Farrell and Youngs when under pressure v
Scotland were laughable
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: July 8, 2019, 8:42 am
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My main concern is how we cope when things are going wrong in
the second half. We've struggled in some games in the first
half, got coaching at half time and turned it around. The
problem is when things go wrong in the second half and the
coaches can't have the same influcence and unfortunately it
seems that the players can't do it themselves. The games against
Wales and Scotland are the prime examples. Against Scotland, we
kept kicking the ball back to them, because that's how we scored
tries against France. The team showed a complete inability to
change the game plan until it was far too late and we ended up
being lucky to snatch a draw.
If the players can learn to adapt during the game rather than
the coaches telling them what to do then hopefully we can go
far. It was telling that Daly defended the team during the 6
nations by saying that they had managed to adapt during games
before, and he cited Italy and "ruckgate" as an example. The
difference was, against Italy we turned it around at half time,
when the coahces had their say.
There is a lot that is good about this England team but I still
think they are a team who needs to be told how to play and to
stick to that gameplan, not one who can think for themselves and
adapt. Danny's apparent refusal to stick to a gameplan (if you
believe some rumours) has seen him miss out on a place in the
squad. I hope that other players sticking too rigidly to a plan
won't cost them a chance at success
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: poorfour
Date: July 8, 2019, 10:56 am
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Exactly. A lot of the value that Danny brings is that he sees
the space and the opportunity as the game opens up, and exploits
it. That doesn't happen to a gameplan, though.
It's interesting that over the course of this RWC cycle, England
have gone from a team who would regularly concede 10+ points in
the first quarter and then snatch victory in the dying moments
with their subs to a team who regularly build a first half lead
and then watch it whittled (or sometimes hacked) away.
That's partly because some of the personnel who were key to the
former are now starters rather than finishers, but also because
the bench now offers less in terms of a change of gameplan.
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: Teddington Taff
Date: July 8, 2019, 12:31 pm
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I've said on many occassions that when England do well it raises
the bar for the other home nations. They all do better. England
have the wider pool of talent than almost all the competitors
and so should be there or ther-abouts despite Eddie Jones.
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: DOK
Date: July 8, 2019, 3:35 pm
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Wasn't that also what we said about Martin Johnson?
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: Domestos
Date: July 8, 2019, 4:20 pm
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--- Quote from: DOK link ---
>
> Wasn't that also what we said about Martin Johnson?
>
--- End Quote ---
As a player?
As a captain?
As a manager?
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Re: England will bomb at Rugby World Cup
DIR By: Monte
Date: July 9, 2019, 1:37 am
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--- Quote from: Domestos link ---
>
> As a player?
> As a captain?
> As a manager?
>
--- End Quote ---
I think DOK means as Manager NO one I know would not love to him
back as player or Captain! My worry is that Eddie is relying
mostly on Sarries players plus Ben Young for experience and if
push comes to shove England will revert to Sarries type play
which won’t necessarily work against Southern Hemisphere teams.
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