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#Post#: 26381--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: July 18, 2019, 3:06 am
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--- Quote from: Marler link ---
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> Do you think we might be preparing for Nick Evans to exit
sometime soon? Wouldn't be the biggest surprise if he was
planning to return to NZ.
>
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That would be surprising, given he only recently got UK
citizenship (he posted a photo of his UK Passport last year.)
#Post#: 26382--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: July 18, 2019, 3:45 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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> The business analogy is accurate.
>
> If you promote jack the lad, everyone’s mate and make them
their manger - they can’t separate their allegiances and are
seen as the ally of their mates by those who weren’t part of the
circle.
>
> He was a massive character as a player, you can easily see how
it would help fuel divisions in a dressing room we suspected -
and have had confirmed by players - was disfunctional,
>
> Either way it doesn’t matter now - we’ve cleared them all out
and can move on.
>
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That might well be the case and I don't actually disagree with
you that that is a very real potential issue - if I was running
a business I'd be very wary of making promotions of that sort -
but I've seen it happen at almost every company I've freelanced
at. I don't think it's as much of an anomaly as you make out.
And, of course, NEv is still there. So we haven't cleared them
all out. Ultimately, shouldn't we just judge him on the
performance of the attack/back line and results of the team,
regardless of how he may have come to be in that position? Just
as all the other coaches are accountable for their particular
remits.
#Post#: 26383--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: Safri-quin
Date: July 18, 2019, 3:51 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
>
> The business analogy is accurate.
>
> If you promote jack the lad, everyone’s mate and make them
their manger - they can’t separate their allegiances and are
seen as the ally of their mates by those who weren’t part of the
circle.
>
> He was a massive character as a player, you can easily see how
it would help fuel divisions in a dressing room we suspected -
and have had confirmed by players - was disfunctional,
>
> Either way it doesn’t matter now - we’ve cleared them all out
and can move on.
>
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Interestingly, at the evening Quinssa arranged with Nick Evans,
when asked about the hardest thing about transition to coaching,
he said it was changing the relationship with some of his
'mates'
He said they were a tight close group, and he had to make a
conscious effort to decouple and take a good few steps back, as
in his new role, he couldn't maintain the same matey matey
relationship anymore.
Same went for his wife, which he said was a lot harder, the
wives & girlfriends are also close, and he said she couldnt be
as involved as before due to his new position...
#Post#: 26394--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: July 18, 2019, 2:09 pm
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--- Quote from: TomBuckQuin link ---
>
> That might well be the case and I don't actually disagree with
you that that is a very real potential issue - if I was running
a business I'd be very wary of making promotions of that sort -
but I've seen it happen at almost every company I've freelanced
at. I don't think it's as much of an anomaly as you make out.
>
> And, of course, NEv is still there. So we haven't cleared them
all out. Ultimately, shouldn't we just judge him on the
performance of the attack/back line and results of the team,
regardless of how he may have come to be in that position? Just
as all the other coaches are accountable for their particular
remits.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agree it’s done a lot and I’ve worked in places where it’s
happened - and it was bloody awful......
#Post#: 26398--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: July 18, 2019, 4:56 pm
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That's probably what's coloured your perspective, then.
Everywhere I've worked has done it quite successfully.
#Post#: 26399--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: July 18, 2019, 11:51 pm
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> That's probably what's coloured your perspective, then.
Everywhere I've worked has done it quite successfully.
>
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That would seem likely but...
In Easter’s case - just felt like giving the gang leader the
keys to the prison.
#Post#: 26402--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: July 19, 2019, 3:45 am
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In the Exhibition Trade we used to just promote the Shop
Steward. Never failed.
#Post#: 26404--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sean Long
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: July 19, 2019, 6:59 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
>
> Agree it’s done a lot and I’ve worked in places where it’s
happened - and it was bloody awful......
>
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So you worked in many insane companies?
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