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Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: poorfour
Date: August 6, 2018, 6:01 am
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--- Quote from: Quaking Quin link ---
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> Looks like an inexperienced replacement for Jamie Roberts from
NFL and USA rugby.
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> A seemingly good acquisition but time will tell.......
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> Does Lasike make Quins a top 6 club???
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We don't know until we see him play, but Lasike brings
physicality that looks to rival Roberts at his peak and I would
imagine he is a lot hungrier and has a longer useful career
ahead of him. If he integrates well into the squad, he could
become the focal point for the attack that we've been lacking
since JTH's injuries started to take their toll.
Any signing is a risk, but Quins have historically done better
at unearthing unsung heroes like Kohn, Ross or Ward than hiring
in big names. If Lasike gives us consistent go forward, then
potentially he does make us a Top 6 club.
#Post#: 2397--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: August 6, 2018, 6:57 am
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--- Quote from: DOK link ---
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> If he played New Zealand rugby until his teens he's probably
got better basic skills than most of the team.
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Same with Winston Stanley.
#Post#: 2411--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: fatgat
Date: August 6, 2018, 12:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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> [quote author=DOK link=topic=147.msg2373#msg2373
date=1533540802]
> If he played New Zealand rugby until his teens he's probably
got better basic skills than most of the team.
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Same with Winston Stanley.
[/quote]
Ouch! Hadn't thought of that, best to reserve judgment, but wish
him, and us, well.
#Post#: 2416--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: August 6, 2018, 1:47 pm
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--- Quote from: Quaking Quin link ---
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> JammyG - Jamie Roberts did very little for us last season, but
is this down to the way he was used by the coaching team?
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> Roberts is a seasoned international with near 100 appearances
for Wales - isn't their a cliche about quality always being
there, where as poor performance is temporary. Bath seemed very
happy to employ him!!
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> However, my point was that as a replacement Lasike was not,
'on paper', in the same class. Hopefully Gustard sees some
potential from a player looking for a career in rugby union
having spent much of his recent time in American Football
playing as a fullback.
>
> Before Blucherquin lets rip, let me say this is no criticism
of anyone, the club, Lasike, Gustard, Ellis or any poster on
this site. However, both the coaching staff and the player have
to make some major adjustments for him to adapt to the intensity
of Premiership and European rugby.
>
> If Lasike does prove to be a major factor in Quins' season
then what an excellent and perceptive acquisition from the Utah
Warriors - but what does it say about the other backs -
Marchant, Saili and Aussie international Tapuai or the talented
academy?
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>
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It's not a zero-sum game, if he is a big success why should it
say anything bad about other players (including one who's a 13,
not a 12)? You seem to be laying groundwork for negativity on
that one, it's a lose-lose - if he's bad then it's a bad
signing, if he's good then it somehow makes other players bad.
He's not the replacement for Jamie Roberts. Tapuai, who was more
effective in the last 2 seasons, is the replacement for Roberts.
He's there to make sure we don't lose too much in terms of
having a big midfield presence should injuries dictate it. But
it is fair to say that despite Roberts' experience, he offered
us nothing that suggested he was a 100 cap international with
major Lions experience.
He's a punt that might turn out to be an astute one. Or he might
be Stanley mk2. Or somewhere in the middle, like Luamanu. I
can't imagine it's costing the club much.
#Post#: 2428--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: poorfour
Date: August 6, 2018, 4:23 pm
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If history is anything to go by, our big name centres have
limited impact and game time (remember Abbot, Ollie Smith,
Luscombe, de Wet Barry?) and our best performances have come
with a combination of home grown talent and players unearthed
from lower leagues (JTH, Lowe, Hopper).
Of course, we *may* get lucky and Saili and Tapuai stay fit for
long enough that Lasike gets time in the A league and the odd
bench slot. But it's likely given the past few seasons that we
will see him fairly regularly, and I am excited to see what he
can do alongside Smith and Marchant.
Of course, this is Quins, so it could still all go wrong, but I
have not yet reached the point where I am going to look for the
negatives in everything before a ball has been kicked in anger.
And I hope I never do. Maybe it's just the way online comments
come across, but the apparent unwillingness of a small hard core
on this board to allow even a little bit of optimism go
unpunished is off-putting to me as a long term fan and must be a
serious deterrent to new members.
#Post#: 2441--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: August 7, 2018, 3:41 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> If history is anything to go by, our big name centres have
limited impact and game time (remember Abbot, Ollie Smith,
Luscombe, de Wet Barry?) and our best performances have come
with a combination of home grown talent and players unearthed
from lower leagues (JTH, Lowe, Hopper).
>
> Of course, we *may* get lucky and Saili and Tapuai stay fit
for long enough that Lasike gets time in the A league and the
odd bench slot. But it's likely given the past few seasons that
we will see him fairly regularly, and I am excited to see what
he can do alongside Smith and Marchant.
>
> Of course, this is Quins, so it could still all go wrong, but
I have not yet reached the point where I am going to look for
the negatives in everything before a ball has been kicked in
anger.
>
> And I hope I never do. Maybe it's just the way online comments
come across, but the apparent unwillingness of a small hard core
on this board to allow even a little bit of optimism go
unpunished is off-putting to me as a long term fan and must be a
serious deterrent to new members.
>
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+1
#Post#: 2455--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: Rocker
Date: August 7, 2018, 4:32 am
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Yes we don't have a great record with centres brought in,
although a certain Will Greenwood didn't do too badly.
#Post#: 2458--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: August 7, 2018, 5:08 am
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Tallest scrum half I have ever seen!
#Post#: 2472--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: August 7, 2018, 7:45 am
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Either way -- couldn't Smith, Lang at 10, 12 be the real future?
#Post#: 2481--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Signing! Paul Lasike confirmed (Title updated)
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: August 7, 2018, 9:21 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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> Either way -- couldn't Smith, Lang at 10, 12 be the real
future?
>
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You'd hope that's a long term option but my fear is that Lang
will move up to Edinburgh/Glasgow now that he's been signed up
for Scotland duty by Townsend. Obviously pure speculation from
the gut and nothing more. Personally, I hope they both stay and
embed themselves as our immediate and longer term future at
10/12.
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