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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: Tonbridge Quin
Date: May 19, 2019, 3:48 pm
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> Indeed loosing 6 out of our last 7 is just not good enough if
JK oversaw that he would be lambasted and not congratulated
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I do agree with what you're saying but I think we should give a
little perspective to these results. Four were against sides
that ended up above us in the league and another up at Sale
which most teams struggle with. I know the be a top team these
are the games we need to start winning but I think it's still
early days.
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: QuincyJones
Date: May 19, 2019, 4:25 pm
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> But that only makes sense if not competing would have any
impact on our ability to compete in the future. If we'd been
humiliated repeatedly by top opposition I might understand your
position ( although I'd still strongly disagree), but we've very
rarely looked out of our depth. And even when we have (1st half
Clermont) we've turned it around and finished the stronger team.
I can buy this argument (although again I disagree) when it's
champions Vs challenge cup, but missing out on the playoffs
doesn't give us a chance elsewhere.
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> Do you think Watford fans and players would have preferred to
have lost in the semis?
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I don't think a pumping in a semi final does moral any good to
finish off a season, despite being in the semis. I don't think
football's a particularly good analogy but I'd prefer the guys
had an extra 2 weeks of holiday.
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: raedarius
Date: May 19, 2019, 4:27 pm
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--- Quote from: Tonbridge Quin link ---
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> I do agree with what you're saying but I think we should give
a little perspective to these results. Four were against sides
that ended up above us in the league and another up at Sale
which most teams struggle with. I know the be a top team these
are the games we need to start winning but I think it's still
early days.
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I tend to agree. Also, we had relatively easy games at the
start of the second half of the season, and this artificially
inflated our position for a while before it normalised over the
course of the rest of the season.
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: Lyndo76
Date: May 20, 2019, 3:30 am
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we lost games we shouldn't have and played some bad rugby, but
taking the whole season I felt happier watching us this year
compared to last year. Hopefully the new recruits will help
Gustard have more impact and next season will be better.
Fighting for 4th was way better than fighting to avoid the drop
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: A222Quin
Date: May 20, 2019, 3:32 am
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Regarding the losses at the end of the season. The Northampton
last minute loss was what did for us. Other than that the
results went broadly according to the form book: Sarries and
Exeter away - losses. Enya - loss (that was disappointing),
Pests - close loss. There are definitely issues to solve and
work on but I feel more optimistic than I did a year ago pre PGs
appointment.
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: marlowish
Date: May 20, 2019, 3:37 am
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> Erm, what?
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> Smith is not a proper 10?
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he is not a prem quality 10 - he will be but he is not yet - he
has some good touches but is inconsistent and make too many poor
decisions - does not compare to the likes of Cipps for instance
Not knocking the lad at all I think he will be fantastic and
hope we keep him for many years to come but would like to see an
experienced international in such a pivotal position
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: marlowish
Date: May 20, 2019, 3:44 am
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> Well who would have thought there would be so much end of
season positivity having won only one from the last seven league
games. Is there another club with a worse final third of the
season or are we the worst club in the premiership on recent
form?
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Agreed the latter part of the season was awful and is cause for
concern - it was not just the losses but the manner of them and
the s+_+t performances. If we lose and play well I do not care
but some of those games were dross.
That said Gussy needs at least 2 seasons to bring in some
players hew wants and to lose those he does not want - I am sure
he will get it right
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
Date: May 20, 2019, 4:48 am
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--- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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> Regarding the losses at the end of the season. The Northampton
last minute loss was what did for us. Other than that the
results went broadly according to the form book: Sarries and
Exeter away - losses. Enya - loss (that was disappointing),
Pests - close loss. There are definitely issues to solve and
work on but I feel more optimistic than I did a year ago pre PGs
appointment.
>
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It was a shame to lose to Enya, yes... damn autocorrect!
On topic, I agree with the previous few posters - it has been a
much more enjoyable season to watch Quins play, despite some
frustrating losses. Our team have played as a team, and heads
have not seemed to drop as much as last season. Onwards and
upwards under Gussy!
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: May 20, 2019, 4:50 am
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This whole "DOR needs 2 or 3 seasons to make it his squad - give
him time" isn't really acceptable. I know DoRs will want players
they have chosen, but a professional club cannot wait 3 years in
the hope that we'll get somewhere and then potentially have to
start all over again.
Saints got into the playoffs and I think Boyd has only been
there one season.
In another 2 seasons, Care, Brown and Robshaw will be gone and
then some people will be making excuses about another rebuilding
phase. Gustard has had a huge clear out so next season the squad
will have a lot of players he has chosen, with a full
pre-season, so so no excuses
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Re: What a turnaround..
DIR By: A222Quin
Date: May 20, 2019, 5:12 am
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Yes, next season is his squad and he has had a chance to make a
difference, need to improvement. Hopefully we will push on a
bit. Boyd has done well in his first season at Saints but was 1m
away from them having the same discussion as our good selves....
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