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       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: May 6, 2019, 2:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Quins Head link ---
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       > I don’t think us getting a bonus point win will make any
       difference
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       Presumably because you think Saints will win? TBH, the bonus
       point is academic as we can only get 4th if we win and Saints
       lose.
       As I said in the original post, I think Exeter will want to get
       back some more momentum ahead of the play-offs. Saints are
       certain capable of beating them and are in good form, but not
       many teams win at Sandy Park.
       #Post#: 23357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: May 6, 2019, 3:01 am
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       Last week, Chiefs first XV were poor and only beat us because of
       the wind and poor decision making. Their second XV were poor in
       the second half this week and they've got next week off. So
       that's 3 weeks since they've had a good win and looked dominant
       at home plus Sarries could catch them if they have another poor
       game and lose, leading to no momentum.
       Saints & Glaws have been outstanding in the last 6 weeks so they
       have momentum.
       I think we forget Top 4 and just focus on beating Wasps and then
       see what happens. If this team really want it, they can go and
       get it. Friday, we had Care, Marchant, Big Kev etc coming back
       from injury so not fully up to speed. I'd expect them all to be
       hungry this week and showing PG that they all want to start and
       if Top 4 happens that they can play 3 matches on the trot.
       Said I'd be happy with Top 6 so either way, I'd be happy but
       want to see a gutsy performance.
       #Post#: 23358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 6, 2019, 3:08 am
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       I think that if we want to be in the champions cup next year,
       then it is important that we don't go on as a 6th or 7th placed
       team as this means that we will have a tough group without a
       'cannon fodder' team
       #Post#: 23360--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: May 6, 2019, 3:43 am
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       Not sure how we can end up 7th but anyway.
       If you are annoyed if we don’t make the playoffs you obviously
       haven’t watched our disintegration under Kingston.
       #Post#: 23361--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: May 6, 2019, 3:58 am
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       If we lose and do not pickup a lbp, Sale get a try bonus point
       win & Bath win with a try bonus or win by a large enough margin
       to (points diff is 18 in our favour).
       #Post#: 23367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: May 6, 2019, 5:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > Last week, Chiefs first XV were poor and only beat us because
       of the wind and poor decision making. Their second XV were poor
       in the second half this week and they've got next week off. So
       that's 3 weeks since they've had a good win and looked dominant
       at home plus Sarries could catch them if they have another poor
       game and lose, leading to no momentum.
       >
       > Saints & Glaws have been outstanding in the last 6 weeks so
       they have momentum.
       >
       > I think we forget Top 4 and just focus on beating Wasps and
       then see what happens. If this team really want it, they can go
       and get it. Friday, we had Care, Marchant, Big Kev etc coming
       back from injury so not fully up to speed. I'd expect them all
       to be hungry this week and showing PG that they all want to
       start and if Top 4 happens that they can play 3 matches on the
       trot.
       >
       > Said I'd be happy with Top 6 so either way, I'd be happy but
       want to see a gutsy performance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree.
       I still think Baxter will be wanting a reaction from Chiefs
       though as he won’t want to go in to the play-offs on a run of
       defeats.
       It makes little difference if we don’t win though!
       #Post#: 23369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: D-Quins
       Date: May 6, 2019, 7:35 am
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       For me I expect Baxter to look at the Saint's game as the start
       of the playoffs.  If Saint win in Exeter they will likely be
       back the following week in the playoffs against Exeter at Home.
       He would not want Saint's going there in the playoffs on the
       back of just beating them in Sandy park.  Would be a big
       advantage to Saints.
       #Post#: 23372--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Quins Head
       Date: May 6, 2019, 9:04 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinston Churchill link ---
       >
       > Presumably because you think Saints will win? TBH, the bonus
       point is academic as we can only get 4th if we win and Saints
       lose.
       >
       > As I said in the original post, I think Exeter will want to
       get back some more momentum ahead of the play-offs. Saints are
       certain capable of beating them and are in good form, but not
       many teams win at Sandy Park.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not at all it literally will make no difference do you want me
       to explain it to you or can you do the maths yourself
       #Post#: 23381--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: May 6, 2019, 11:44 am
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       Not sure the condescending tone is really needed, but whatever,
       note taken and I don’t need you to explain. Thanks very much all
       he same ...
       #Post#: 23382--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fourth or seventh?
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: May 6, 2019, 11:57 am
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       --- Quote from: quintastic. link ---
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       > This is really interesting, I hadn't seen this before. So
       >
       > i) both saracens and leinster are qualified
       > ii) Clermont are qualified and La Rochelle are 5 points above
       7th with two games to go
       > iii) As above
       > *iv) if we dont get in the top 6, its because sale have. So
       surely we get this spot*
       > v) might have to support saracens in the final next week!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hmmm, it might make sense that this were the case, but it’s not
       what the rules say so I’m not convinced that is what would
       happen.
       They also don’t make any provision for the losing finalist of
       the Heineken Cup to be given a place the following year - they
       have to qualify via their league.
       Really badly written rules IMO
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