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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: noah_jo
Date: May 5, 2019, 12:44 pm
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As much as I am excited by our improvement, a complete
capitulation in our most important match of the season
potentially would not be unexpected
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: May 5, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Can't say I'm that excited about our improvement. Losing 6 from
the last 7 is still a shocking effort, and that solitary win
scraping past a rubbish Tigers side at home! I'm expecting more
of the same in two weeks' time.
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: May 5, 2019, 12:51 pm
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Maybe it's the last 5 from 6.
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: noah_jo
Date: May 5, 2019, 1:38 pm
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Well we're clearly better than last year and I am more excited
as a result
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: SiB
Date: May 5, 2019, 2:01 pm
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Don’t get the negativity, for a good few seasons, travelled to
games home and away expecting to get a thumping, this season
have looked at teams sheets and thought “ We could win this”
At this stage to be in the possibility of a play off place and
securing top table rugby with Gussys first season is a massive
improvement, and it’s great to have a bit of faith restored
COYQ
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: Putneyquin
Date: May 5, 2019, 2:43 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
>
> Can't say I'm that excited about our improvement. Losing 6
from the last 7 is still a shocking effort, and that solitary
win scraping past a rubbish Tigers side at home! I'm expecting
more of the same in two weeks' time.
>
--- End Quote ---
The loss of form and momentum has come at the wrong time of the
season, agree 100%.
But think you're being harsh and ignoring the facts.
Proof of progress under PG is having 55 points vs. 36 points at
end of last season.
Get a single BP on Saturday and we are guaranteed 6th place and
Champion Cup rugby vs 10th last season.
Do 2 pts better than Saints and we're in the playoffs, which I
doubt many would have dreamt possible given the dramatic and
depressing demise under JK last season.
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: QuinKent
Date: May 5, 2019, 2:45 pm
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Strangely I find myself preferring 5th or 6th to 4th - because i
don’t think we are yet able to win two on the trot against
Chiefs/Sarries, and we’re finishing the season looking a bit
more threadbare than I’d like (cf Saints, who are definitely
finishing strongly). So part of me prefers we bank a better
season than most of us expected, give most of our players two
extra weeks to recover and enter next season looking to be top
four favourites and premiership (if not European champions cup)
contenders. But we have to nail top six first...
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: BedfordshireBoy
Date: May 5, 2019, 3:02 pm
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Fourth Place
Saints and Quins are the only two teams who can take the fourth
spot
If Saints win at Chiefs next week then they take the spot
If Saints lose and Quins win at Wasps then Quins take the spot
Top Six
If Saints win and Quins win, Quins will be fifth
If Saints and Quins lose and Bath have a bonus point win, Bath
will be fifth and Quins sixth, unless Sale also win with a bonus
point win in which case Bath will be fifth, Sale sixth and Quins
seventh unless Quins get a losing bonus point in which case they
would hold on to sixth place.
I think that covers it, basically we need to win at Coventry.
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: Quins Head
Date: May 5, 2019, 3:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinston Churchill link ---
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> We need to keep it in our own hands. A win is essential and
bonus point win would give us a great chance of fourth.
>
> Saints are certainly capable of beating Exeter (particularly
given the relative form of the two sides. I’d expect Exeter to
want to bounce back ahead of the play-offs though.
>
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I don’t think us getting a bonus point win will make any
difference
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Re: Fourth or seventh?
DIR By: quintastic.
Date: May 5, 2019, 3:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinofthestoneage link ---
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> Interestingly 7th this year could still see us in the
Champions Cup:
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> "In accordance with a decision of the EPCR Board comprising
the nine unions, federations and league bodies, the 20th place
in the Heineken Champions Cup will be determined as follows:
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> i) Heineken Champions Cup winner, if not already qualified
> ii) Challenge Cup winner, if not already qualified
> iii) Challenge Cup losing finalist, if not already qualified
> iv) Play-off match between the losing Challenge Cup
semi-finalists, if not already qualified
> v) Highest ranked non-qualified club by virtue of league
position from the same league as the Heineken Champions Cup
winner"
>
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This is really interesting, I hadn't seen this before. So
i) both saracens and leinster are qualified
ii) Clermont are qualified and La Rochelle are 5 points above
7th with two games to go
iii) As above
iv) if we dont get in the top 6, its because sale have. So
surely we get this spot
v) might have to support saracens in the final next week!
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