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#Post#: 1947--------------------------------------------------
Re: Coaching Lineup Finalised
DIR By: Teddington Taff
Date: July 27, 2018, 6:58 am
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Hmm...
We did have two scrum coaches - albeit AJ was not experienced -
but he is now. Minty - for whatever reason didnt deliver and PG
is top division coaching this area - so a no brainer really.
Nev has yet to show his worth but my instinct would be its a
good decision to keep him. Along with Tofty - It retains the
continuity of the Quins style.
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: Nico Wilson
Date: July 28, 2018, 8:20 am
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Oddly, no backs coach.
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: quinalan
Date: July 28, 2018, 1:44 pm
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Attack/Backs coach. I see that as the same.
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: Quaking Quin
Date: July 28, 2018, 4:33 pm
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Proof of the pudding is in the results on the field.
Quins' recruitment has hardly been stunning this summer and the
existing galacticos have been an uncoordinated mess for the last
three seasons.
Let's hope the newly appointed DoR/Head Whatever does not fall
into the same cliché ridden build-up - top 6 is a minimum but it
takes 3 years to gel.
We will know by the end of November whether there is any lead in
the pencil.
#Post#: 2018--------------------------------------------------
Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: July 29, 2018, 2:17 am
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--- Quote from: Quaking Quin link ---
>
> Proof of the pudding is in the results on the field.
>
> Quins' recruitment has hardly been stunning this summer and
the existing galacticos have been an uncoordinated mess for the
last three seasons.
>
> Let's hope the newly appointed DoR/Head Whatever does not fall
into the same cliché ridden build-up - top 6 is a minimum but it
takes 3 years to gel.
>
> We will know by the end of November whether there is any lead
in the pencil.
>
--- End Quote ---
Not entirely sure what point you’re making.
There hasn’t been any recruitment, it was done and dusted before
we got a new boss. There isn’t any business to be done.
Yes we’ve been poor for three seasons, that’s specifically why
we’ve got a new boss.
Do you mean you don’t want anyone to say top 6 is a minimum? Me
too, we’re rebuilding the side, don’t care where we finish other
than last as long as it looks like we’re changing the
long-standing malaise. I’d be amazed if Gustard sets a position
finish target,
And much as I’m sure again no one will say it at Quins, enough
coaches/former players etc have said that it takes 3 years to
change a squad these days that I’m sure it’s probably right.
Either way we don’t actually know if we have a good squad or not
because we’ve played such terrible rugby. Certainly we need to
start finding replacements for our aging England contingent.
So yes, we’ll see once they actually start playing - but I’m
still not sure what you’re expecting? Or indeed what you think
others are expecting? No one appears to have predicted a sudden
challenge for the title.
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: guest25
Date: July 29, 2018, 3:50 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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> [quote author=Quaking Quin link=topic=131.msg2014#msg2014
date=1532813593]
> Proof of the pudding is in the results on the field.
>
> Quins' recruitment has hardly been stunning this summer and
the existing galacticos have been an uncoordinated mess for the
last three seasons.
>
> Let's hope the newly appointed DoR/Head Whatever does not fall
into the same cliché ridden build-up - top 6 is a minimum but it
takes 3 years to gel.
>
> We will know by the end of November whether there is any lead
in the pencil.
>
--- End Quote ---
Not entirely sure what point you’re making.
[/quote]
Really? It seems pretty clear to me what point he's making.
My own view is that we have a strong squad which (massively)
underperformed last season. If it performs to anything like its
potential this season, there's no reason why we shouldn't get
straight back into the top half of the table ... at least.
I also hope that the new management doesn't arrive paving the
way in front of themselves with pre-baked excuses about how long
it'll take to achieve a turnaround of "the mess we've
inherited". It doesn't strike me that that's Gustard's style and
he must know that what he's inheriting offers a real opportunity
for an instant and spectacular turnaround.
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: A222Quin
Date: July 29, 2018, 4:54 am
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The under performance has gone on so long that I'm not sure
exactly what level of performance these players are capable of.
I'd like to think that they're capable of top 6 but I'm honestly
not sure.
What i'm hoping for from Gustard and his team is that we look
like a team with a consistent and properly planned approach to
the game. Above all though, the basics have to improve though.
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: kevin
Date: July 29, 2018, 5:29 am
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--- Quote from: Teddington Taff link ---
>
> Hmm...
>
> Along with Tofty - It retains the continuity of the Quins
style.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Hmmm! I would hope that our style of recent times is kicked into
touch!
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Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: Quaking Quin
Date: July 29, 2018, 9:37 am
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Thank you MrOther for pointing out to others the blindingly
obvious.
Over the past 15 years or so seasons I've heard every possible
excuse for a poor Harlequeens' league position - from the
weekly 'disappointing performance' missives in 'Scottie Speaks'
- to Mark Evans saying the club was 'punching above its weight'
when finishing 6th or 7th - to the mindless media confetti
endlessly uttered by CoS and copied by JK.
We all start the new season with high expectations and legacy of
'the best ever Quins squad' (according to the previous DoR).
However, we must temper any pre-season optimism with the reality
that we begin a new era under the direction of a coach with no
previous DoR experience at any level, assisted by a hastily
assembled and unproven coaching team.
I hope Gustard will give us a clear and honest analysis of his
expectations and the team's performances - win or lose. Let's
also hope his fresh ideas rekindle the careers of an ageing core
squad who have got used to losing at club and international
level.
If Quins are to improve they must beat their closest bottom 6
league rivals (Sale, Bristol, Gloucester, Wuzz and Saints) whose
recruitment over the summer appears to have been significantly
more impressive. Time will tell if it is better - the league
position by the end of November should give a good guide!!!
The coaching team do not have the luxury of three years to put
together a squad in their own image. Any slip on last season's
results and it's back to Championship rugby.......
#Post#: 2037--------------------------------------------------
Re: Thats the coaching sorted then
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: July 29, 2018, 9:49 am
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So although it takes 3 years to change a squad, or even 1 year
(even though that’s clearly impossible) that doesn’t apply to
Quins.
Ok so that leaves the current squad.
And you’re giving the new coaching team until November?
And again you’re talking about recruitment - which wasn’t done
by the new coaching team and was complete before their arrival.
Finally - you’re bored of all the managers of a sports team
saying what managers of a sports team say about a sports team.
What do you propose Gustard should say? I mean he could knock
out some karaoke I guess, or maybe giving updates on share
prices and bond yields would be more crowd appropriate.
I hope he sorts out our defence, keeps us up and starts working
to clear our players he doesn’t want or rate. Why we will have
brown, care, robshaw, horwill, and more with no one challenging
for their spot is a total mystery.
Sadly the idea that anyone can make a “spectacular” turn around
of some b-list squad fillers and England players at the end of
their careers who are all focussed on Japan is a mystery.
We need a new start - we’ve got one - but I’d expect Gustard to
say it’s a long job and wouldn’t knock him for it.
So yeah - I don’t have a clue what you’re on about
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