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       #Post#: 21859--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: April 13, 2019, 11:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > On a different note, I see that Folau's post picked on a range
       of people, none of them doing anything illegal. Why is there no
       uproar from or about atheists, drunkards, fornicators and the
       others?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       **** me. (Unless god tells you not to)
       Are you just really satirically amusing or actually as silly as
       you sound?
       Those are choices.
       Being gay isn’t a choice.
       #Post#: 21877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Matt72
       Date: April 13, 2019, 1:40 pm
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       It's sad that people find it hard to believe that there could be
       a god. When you look into carbon dating and evolution you can
       find so many flaws. Carbon dating is based on so many
       assumptions it's laughable but everyone has been brain washed
       from nursery onwards. Thanks to social media like YouTube the
       real truth is out there. You no longer have to be a sheep. You
       can research yourself and think for yourself.
       #Post#: 21882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: April 13, 2019, 1:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       >
       > Reading this thread it seems anyone who has any sort of faith
       is backward and fair game to be slagged off. Anyone who is
       overly sanctimonious is amazing and beyond reproach. This is why
       I asked these threasa to be put off topic but apparently this
       nonsense is all part of our core values. This level of hypocrisy
       and sanctimony is why people don't follow the sport
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Indeed. When I tell people I am a rugby fan, they always say
       "sorry, that's too hypocritical and sanctimonious for me!".
       #Post#: 21887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Quins Head
       Date: April 13, 2019, 2:17 pm
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       Not sure it’s a well done for me it was all words their actions
       today spoke louder so shame on them from me
       #Post#: 21888--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: April 13, 2019, 2:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: Matt72 link ---
       >
       > It's sad that people find it hard to believe that there could
       be a god. When you look into carbon dating and evolution you can
       find so many flaws. Carbon dating is based on so many
       assumptions it's laughable but everyone has been brain washed
       from nursery onwards. Thanks to social media like YouTube the
       real truth is out there. You no longer have to be a sheep. You
       can research yourself and think for yourself.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The thing you're missing here is that I, an atheist, do not
       claim carbon dating and evolution aren't flawed. The difference
       is I don't expect to know all the answers. Why should we? That's
       a totally insane expectation in my mind. The universe is so
       impossibly vast and we are such a small part of it that while
       our pursuit for ultimate truth/knowledge/answers brings
       fascinating new developments, the pursuit itself is ultimately
       futile I believe. Our sun will burn out and the earth will cease
       to exist before we ever know everything there is to know about
       life. Human science does its best but acknowledges its
       limitations.
       Whereas religion claims to know the answers. Just my opinion,
       but that's the biggest flaw in religion for me.
       I've done plenty of research. I've read the Bible. It's written
       by humans who wanted to put a framework around their lives.
       Thousands of years ago. You're welcome to believe what you want
       to but you're not convincing me unfortunately if that was your
       hope.
       One thing you're right about: I'm brainwashed. So are you. Life
       = brainwashing. We choose to believe what makes most sense to us
       based on the data we're exposed to/the data we go out and find.
       The fact that your brain was washed with a different flavour of
       soap to mine is kinda what makes life so interesting.
       #Post#: 21896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: April 13, 2019, 4:06 pm
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       This is getting so OT is hard to see what relevance any of this
       nonsense has to do with rugby. I am keeping my views to myself
       as my beliefs are mine alone. I find the level of sanctimonious
       twaddle being chucked about amazing though!
       #Post#: 21900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: April 13, 2019, 4:18 pm
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       Apparently there are these new things called core rugby values
       Rocker.
       #Post#: 21906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: April 13, 2019, 5:41 pm
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       There's also old things known generally as BS 🤬
       #Post#: 21913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: April 14, 2019, 1:04 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       >
       > Reading this thread it seems anyone who has any sort of faith
       is backward and fair game to be slagged off. Anyone who is
       overly sanctimonious is amazing and beyond reproach. This is why
       I asked these threasa to be put off topic but apparently this
       nonsense is all part of our core values. This level of hypocrisy
       and sanctimony is why people don't follow the sport
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Don’t think anyone should be slagged off for having religious
       beliefs or for being gay.
       Just think employees should follow their employers code of
       conduct.
       #Post#: 21915--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well Done Saracens regarding Billy Vunipola.
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: April 14, 2019, 1:07 am
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       Remember the days when players - if they spoke at all - would
       just talk about rugby. Nobody knew or cared what they thought
       about anything else?
       Sigh...
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