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#Post#: 21508--------------------------------------------------
Folau Sacked
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: April 11, 2019, 3:39 am
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This could have gone under the Marler Hero thread but since
there were a couple of people doubting that hating gays is
incompatible with rugby values....Folau has been sacked.
"Rugby Australia and the New South Wales Rugby Union have made
repeated attempts to contact Israel both directly and via his
representatives since 6.30pm on Wednesday, and at this point he
has failed to communicate directly with either organisation.
"Whilst Israel is entitled to his religious beliefs, the way in
which he has expressed these beliefs is inconsistent with the
values of the sport. We want to make it clear that he does not
speak for the game with his recent social media posts.
"Israel has failed to understand that the expectation of him as
a Rugby Australia and NSW Waratahs employee is that he cannot
share material on social media that condemns, vilifies or
discriminates against people on the basis of their sexuality.
"Rugby is a sport that continuously works to unite people. We
want everyone to feel safe and welcome in our game and no
vilification based on race, gender, religion or sexuality is
acceptable and no language that isolates, divides or insults
people based on any of those factors can be tolerated.
"As a code we have made it clear to Israel formally and
repeatedly that any social media posts or commentary that is in
any way disrespectful to people because of their sexuality will
result in disciplinary action. "In the absence of compelling
mitigating factors, it is our intention to terminate his
contract."
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: April 11, 2019, 4:01 am
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Good. See you in Hell, Issy ;D
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: MightyQ2
Date: April 11, 2019, 4:03 am
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Great to see this, I was doubtful considering it’s a RWC year
but good on them! Values have to come first...
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: Twickersman
Date: April 11, 2019, 4:27 am
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I am a supporter of free speech, he is entitled to his own
opinion, it is not breaking the law. But it looks very bad in
the inclusive rugby community and to pretty much everyone in
society, bar the odd religious zealot.
I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Toulon put in a
megabucks bid for him.
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: April 11, 2019, 4:41 am
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"I am a supporter of free speech" is fine in itself and up to a
limit. In this context it is a cop-out and you become complicit
in the harm Folau's views can do (and probably are doing/already
have done). To quote poorfour from the other thread:
--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
>
> Not all rights are equal. Your right not to be offended, or to
say whatever you want is less important than someone else's
right to freedom from harassment and discrimination. When two
people's rights come into conflict, humane societies determine
precedence by looking at which option causes the least overall
harm.
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: April 11, 2019, 4:50 am
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--- Quote from: Twickersman link ---
>
> I am a supporter of free speech, he is entitled to his own
opinion, it is not breaking the law. But it looks very bad in
the inclusive rugby community and to pretty much everyone in
society, bar the odd religious zealot.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Toulon put in a
megabucks bid for him.
>
--- End Quote ---
As the statement says, it's nothing to do with his beliefs or
opinions, it's that rugby doesn't believe in hating gay people.
So he'll have to go somewhere that it's ok.
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: April 11, 2019, 4:52 am
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That better not be Quins is all I'll say. I know Mike's getting
on now but unthink it Gussy. UNTHINK IT.
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: April 11, 2019, 6:22 am
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Id bet France
#Post#: 21554--------------------------------------------------
Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: April 11, 2019, 6:24 am
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Yup, or maybe Japan...
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Re: Folau Sacked
DIR By: Quinky
Date: April 11, 2019, 7:27 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
>
> As the statement says, it's nothing to do with his beliefs or
opinions, it's that rugby doesn't believe in hating gay people.
So he'll have to go somewhere that it's ok.
>
--- End Quote ---
You can't stop people hating anyone or anything. The only thing
you can do is to unravel why they feel that hate, and hope that
the reasons can be undone.
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