DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
ComeAllWithin (Harlequins Rugby)
HTML https://comeallwithin.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: ComeAllWithin Board
*****************************************************
#Post#: 19843--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 22, 2019, 9:20 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: TomBuckQuin link ---
>
> It is an interesting point - all white players coming in so
far. Nothing more to my point than that and it's not weighted
with any judgement either way, just an observation...
>
--- End Quote ---
It's not interesting at all.
#Post#: 19847--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: Only Joe Quin
Date: March 22, 2019, 9:29 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Well, I'm mildly interested, having not clocked that myself and
having an interest in questions of diversity, wherever they
arise. Nevertheless it is probably not too significant.
#Post#: 19849--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: March 22, 2019, 9:37 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Yup, diversity is always an interesting one - even more so in a
sport like ours that's still struggling to shake off perception
problems around its traditional upper-middle-class talent
pipeline, certainly in England.
#Post#: 19860--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: March 22, 2019, 9:52 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Thinking back a ways... wasn't Tosh Masson the first (and I
believe still the only) Sikh to have played rugby at the top
club level?
#Post#: 19863--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: March 22, 2019, 10:00 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
>
> Thinking back a ways... wasn't Tosh Masson the first (and I
believe still the only) Sikh to have played rugby at the top
club level?
>
--- End Quote ---
In that regard at least we're not cricket, where they still
haven't managed to break through to get English Asian players to
develop through the leagues despite it being a vastly popular
sport across India and Pakistan.
The reasons are totally unsuitable for the internet in that they
are complex and not black and white (sic).
#Post#: 19872--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: The Absolute Quintet
Date: March 22, 2019, 10:56 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
>
> Finally another posh player, our fan base have been rattled by
some of the state educated players we've employed recently.
>
--- End Quote ---
Too right!
No idea but he might be one of the 6th form free scholarships
Wellington hands or did hand out, as per Manu. Still
reassuringly posh, even if his papa didn’t pay!
#Post#: 19892--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: March 22, 2019, 12:16 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
>
> In that regard at least we're not cricket, where they still
haven't managed to break through to get English Asian players to
develop through the leagues despite it being a vastly popular
sport across India and Pakistan.
--- End Quote ---
???
How about:-
Aquib Afzaal, Kamran Afzaal, Jahid Ahmed, Aadil Ali, Hamza Ali,
Kabir Ali, Kadeer Ali, Moeen Ali, Rehan Alikhan, Zafar Ansari,
Usman Arshad, Ravi Bopara, Varun Chopra, Duleepsinhji, Haseeb
Hameed, Arun Harinath, Jamil Hassan, Mel Hussain, Nasser
Hussain, Ateeq Javid, Monty Panesar, Samit Patel, Imran Qayyum,
Azeem Rafiq, Ranjitsinhji, Adil Rashid, Arif Saeed, Gurjit
Sandhu, Bilal Shafayat, Ajmal Shahzad, Vikram Solanki, Shiv
Thakor & Kishen Velani
By 2011, there was 30-40% British-Asian representation in grass
roots cricket but by 2014, only 6.2% in First Class cricket, a %
that roughly reflected the 7 % of British-Asians in UK
population (2011 census)...
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/29623717
#Post#: 19896--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: March 22, 2019, 12:28 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Some good players on that list
#Post#: 19908--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: March 22, 2019, 2:35 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
>
> ???
>
> How about:-
>
> Aquib Afzaal, Kamran Afzaal, Jahid Ahmed, Aadil Ali, Hamza
Ali, Kabir Ali, Kadeer Ali, Moeen Ali, Rehan Alikhan, Zafar
Ansari, Usman Arshad, Ravi Bopara, Varun Chopra, Duleepsinhji,
Haseeb Hameed, Arun Harinath, Jamil Hassan, Mel Hussain, Nasser
Hussain, Ateeq Javid, Monty Panesar, Samit Patel, Imran Qayyum,
Azeem Rafiq, Ranjitsinhji, Adil Rashid, Arif Saeed, Gurjit
Sandhu, Bilal Shafayat, Ajmal Shahzad, Vikram Solanki, Shiv
Thakor & Kishen Velani
>
> By 2011, there was 30-40% British-Asian representation in
grass roots cricket but by 2014, only 6.2% in First Class
cricket, a % that roughly reflected the 7 % of British-Asians in
UK population (2011 census)...
>
>
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/29623717
>
--- End Quote ---
Blimey. It’s an acknowledged issue by the ECB, how many of those
are English players who play for England?
The point wasn’t even a criticism of bloody cricket - it was an
observation that even when you have a large base of players from
a specific background it is still hard to make sure that talent
ends in diversity at the highest level.
Which your numbers bear out.
Sheesh.
#Post#: 19912--------------------------------------------------
Re: 11th Signing
DIR By: Hellequin
Date: March 22, 2019, 4:33 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
It is an interesting conundrum for global sports, how do you
spread the game without centralising players contracts. If a
player from a lower tier nation is really good they will be
brought/bought into a rich league club, if they stay long enough
they can play for a more successful and better playing nation.
The original nation loses out on top talent as they and their
clubs can't keep players and struggle to progress/improve and
then lose out on financial rewards and can't afford to pay
better wages.
*****************************************************
Page 4 of 7
DIR Previous Page
DIR Next Page