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#Post#: 19159--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Quins Head
Date: March 17, 2019, 5:57 pm
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Well one that recognised that Quins Head is basically the same
as Quinshead would be good
#Post#: 19161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Mayor West
Date: March 18, 2019, 4:00 am
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I was talking to a Scottish friend yesterday who was at the game
on Saturday. They were surrounded by England supporters one of
which was using language that wasn’t polite to abuse Scotland
and the Scottish. This tyrant continued until Scotland
equalised, then he quietened down. My friend is female as were
many around her but at no point did anybody say anything to this
vile person about his language or racist rantings. I’m sure
there are many reverse situations but this sort of behaviour is
out of order either way.
#Post#: 19162--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Quicker Quin
Date: March 18, 2019, 4:15 am
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--- Quote from: Mayor West link ---
>
> I was talking to a Scottish friend yesterday who was at the
game on Saturday. They were surrounded by England supporters one
of which was using language that wasn’t polite to abuse Scotland
and the Scottish. This tyrant continued until Scotland
equalised, then he quietened down. My friend is female as were
many around her but at no point did anybody say anything to this
vile person about his language or racist rantings. I’m sure
there are many reverse situations but this sort of behaviour is
out of order either way.
>
--- End Quote ---
What happened when after asking him to modify his behaviour and
moderate his language, and he failed to do so, they reported him
to a steward?
#Post#: 19163--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: March 18, 2019, 4:15 am
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--- Quote from: Mayor West link ---
>
> I was talking to a Scottish friend yesterday who was at the
game on Saturday. They were surrounded by England supporters one
of which was using language that wasn’t polite to abuse Scotland
and the Scottish. This tyrant continued until Scotland
equalised, then he quietened down. My friend is female as were
many around her but at no point did anybody say anything to this
vile person about his language or racist rantings. I’m sure
there are many reverse situations but this sort of behaviour is
out of order either way.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm pretty sure it's not racism, but totally agree on the point
-- we always ask people not to talk like that if they do at HQ.
But as others have said, the crowd has really changed in the 10
years I've been going regularly. We were in the upper tier on
Sat, and there were far fewer of the old pink trouser brigade,
which is a massive bonus - but there were a few groups of lads
around who clearly would have been happier at the races, or
boxing or somewhere else where being really obviously drunk and
badly behaved is acceptable.
#Post#: 19165--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Teddington Taff
Date: March 18, 2019, 4:17 am
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It is actually racist m'lud! Totally agree it is out of order
and I'm sure not confind to England and english supporters.
#Post#: 19166--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Mayor West
Date: March 18, 2019, 4:47 am
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--- Quote from: Quicker Quin link ---
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> What happened when after asking him to modify his behaviour
and moderate his language, and he failed to do so, they reported
him to a steward?
>
--- End Quote ---
I did ask the question about reporting this sort of thing to a
steward. My friend was surprised that the crowd did not self
police . Her party were more interested in the game, especially
during the comeback and didn’t want to cause any more of a
kerfuffle. They tried to ignore the idiot and could feel the
embarrassment of the people around them.
#Post#: 19173--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: marlowish
Date: March 18, 2019, 5:20 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
>
> Pathetic?
>
> Ok.
>
> We really are bad losers.
>
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No I am not a bad loser - it is only a game after all. Sport is
just fun nothing else. I had a beer and a laugh with Scottish
fans after the game.
Sadly however there are many people from the Celtic nations who
have resentment or even hatred to the English for the past. It
does not bother me if they want to be angry and bitter that is
up to them and they can get on with it but it does exist.
#Post#: 19179--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: guest602
Date: March 18, 2019, 7:04 am
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If you witness bad behaviour at Twickenham Stadium, go
immediately to one of the two Honorary Stewards standing in the
vomitory. In the middles and uppers, they can be seated.
Honorary Stewards wear blue Jackets with a yellow bib with
Honorary Steward clearly visible on the back. They are unpaid
and can face the pitch but are there for a reason, to assist the
fans and keep pathways clear of people and debris etc etc. The
paid stewards (RFU Casuals/Outside Agency) on the lowers face
the fans. They have a duel role to stop pitch invaders so they
sit on a stool blocking the pitch entrance and assist the
Honorary Stewards by visually scanning the stands for smokers,
large flags, large hats, sitting/standing on steps etc. Honorary
Stewards aren’t there just to watch the rugby, their job is to
constantly monitor their regular allocated stand and, unlike the
stool sitters, go up the stairs to the problem area and attempt
to resolve it, if they can’t, they contact the Honorary
Supervisor (orange jacket) who is a radio carrier, each
Supervisor has 5 stands to attend (Example L1 – L5). The
supervisor will radio to the tower who will fix a roaming CCTV
camera on the area and jointly decide if a removal is required,
albeit a threat of removal normally solves the issue. They then
attempt to relocate them to an empty seat(s) if possible,
discreetly away from the complainer for visual monitoring. On
Saturday there were at least 4 separate groups removed. Don’t
sit in your seat suffering, speak to an Honorary Stewards.
#Post#: 19185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: March 18, 2019, 7:20 am
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Use your camera phone too.
#Post#: 19195--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: March 18, 2019, 8:39 am
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[quote=Blucherquin]...but there were a few groups of lads around
who clearly would have been happier at the races, or boxing or
somewhere else where being really obviously drunk and badly
behaved is acceptable.[/quote]
Sounds like traditional rugby supporters.
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