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#Post#: 19127--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: March 17, 2019, 4:22 am
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I don't think it inspired anything. International teams do not
like losing. Wales fought the entire game to stay in touch and
outlasted England, whose kicking game fed them everything they
needed. Suggesting it's only because it was England is daft -
they just won the Grand Slam...
#Post#: 19129--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: arniepie
Date: March 17, 2019, 5:26 am
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Jones may come across as a jokey type of character but in the
England camp he is a real piece of work making it a horrible
place to be, basically having 2 of the players run the dressing
room any difference of opinion is reported back and sanctioned,
not a nice place to go to work
#Post#: 19142--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: March 17, 2019, 8:09 am
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Well they definitely have a problem going to work in the second
half of matches thats for sure.
#Post#: 19147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Quinhead
Date: March 17, 2019, 11:26 am
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I'd heard to isn;t a great atmosphere too puts coach against
coach etc a certain method of getting results I suppose. One of
the reasons Gussy left I'v heard. What we saw yesterday though
is the result of that when the pressure comes on then a poor
team response, unlike Wales when the pressure comes on the dig
in for each other.
#Post#: 19149--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Teddington Taff
Date: March 17, 2019, 2:16 pm
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--- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
>
> Tell us why from your point of view Teddington? Genuinely
curious.
>
--- End Quote ---
So to start - I'll use this from above - In part it's right it
is a cocktail.
--- Quote from: Everyone’s a Quinner link ---
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> Think it’s a cocktail mix of a view things. A little bit of
history, topped up with a teasing Eddie Jones, added with a dash
of perceived arrogance and a slice of jealousy that we are still
the only team out of England, Ireland, Scotland & Wales to win a
World Cup.
> Served gracefully with swing low sweet chariot and in the
great HQ that is Twickenham Stadium, home of English rugby!
>
--- End Quote ---
History is the starting point. England have always been called
"the Old Enemy". But we've moved on a lot since those days and
the use of that description is more of a nod to the past rather
than the present. Nationalistic pride does surface when players
are chosen to tour with The Lions. Sir CW was critcised for his
English prefernces as WG was for his Welsh. In the final
analysis nationalism was put aside by most of the players and
strong bonds formed - although there is still disquiet (in
Ireland) for BoD being dropped by Gatland in the final Lion's
test.
Back to topic - There is a perceived arrogance about the
English team and the red rose army of supporters and Eddie Jones
doesn't help matters with his big mouth. However, I have this
theory that when England do well and I mean REALLY WELL... it
makes/inspires/cajoles the other home nations to play better.
England have been the team to beat in the modern professional
era. Better funded; more teams x players to chose from; a better
professional structure that is head and shoulders above the
other rugby nations worldwide.
It's as simple as that. England expects! They are the benchmark
to test yourself against. It's why you want to beat them.
#Post#: 19150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Quins Head
Date: March 17, 2019, 2:26 pm
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Why does this sight allow sone one to have an almost identical
name
#Post#: 19151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: March 17, 2019, 3:40 pm
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--- Quote from: Rocker link ---
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> No it's because they all care more about their historical
grievances than anything else. Pathetic really.
>
> Farrell lost it after the charge down and failing to catch the
hooker. Chucked a miss pass that was intercepted and got even
more out of sorts. Daly isn't a full back, rubbish defence,
Youngs was very poor again too
>
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Pathetic?
Ok.
We really are bad losers.
#Post#: 19152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: baggie
Date: March 17, 2019, 3:56 pm
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--- Quote from: BedfordshireBoy link ---
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> Stock answer is that the English are arrogant.
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Yes ... but we’ve got a lot to be arrogant about ;D ;D
#Post#: 19155--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: guest602
Date: March 17, 2019, 5:14 pm
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Immediately after the Eng Scot match, supporters on both sides
were 'high five-ing' and drinking together in the stadium
'karaoke' bars. Never seen such a lovely display of opposing
rugby fans at HQ. Lovely to see, faith restored!
#Post#: 19158--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why does everyone want to beat England?
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: March 17, 2019, 5:52 pm
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--- Quote from: Quins Head link ---
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> Why does this sight allow sone one to have an almost identical
name
>
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What algorithm would you propose?
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