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       #Post#: 18960--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: March 14, 2019, 4:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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       > I still don't get where praising his loyalty comes in. He got
       the deal he wanted so he stayed.
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       > If he didn't get the cash he'd have moved. Wonder how he'll
       enjoy the Championship....
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       PJM beat you to it.
       #Post#: 18995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: March 14, 2019, 8:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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       > I still don't get where praising his loyalty comes in. He got
       the deal he wanted so he stayed.
       >
       > If he didn't get the cash he'd have moved. Wonder how he'll
       enjoy the Championship....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So players can only be loyal if they get deals they don't want?
       You can't be saying that but you sure make it sound like you
       are. What do you think shows loyalty by a player to a club?
       #Post#: 18998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: March 14, 2019, 8:48 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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       > So players can only be loyal if they get deals they don't
       want? You can't be saying that but you sure make it sound like
       you are. What do you think shows loyalty by a player to a club?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Blimey.
       Ok. He was either offered lots of money by France and turned it
       down for less money because he's loyal. Or they matched what he
       was offered by France to stop him going. Or there was never a
       firm offer from France and it was his agent negotiating more
       cash from Tigers.
       But it was you who defined his loyalty by the deal, not me. I
       asked how we can tell anything about his loyalty from his
       contract.
       #Post#: 19000--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: March 14, 2019, 8:53 am
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       Oh. So Mike Brown was possibly not loyal turning down those
       supposed offers from France?
       #Post#: 19001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: March 14, 2019, 9:01 am
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       Huh?
       That isn't a logical sequitur.
       It was suggested that Tuliagi is loyal because of the contract
       after rumours he was off.
       I'm just asking how that's true?
       All we know is he's staying.
       #Post#: 19002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: March 14, 2019, 9:04 am
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       > But it was you who defined his loyalty by the deal, not me
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       Where did I do that?
       Again, what do you think shows loyalty of a player to a club?
       #Post#: 19006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: March 14, 2019, 9:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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       > Where did I do that?
       >
       > Again, what do you think shows loyalty of a player to a club?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Unless I'm mad in a thread I started about Tuilagi signing a new
       contract after someone claimed he'd gone to France you said it
       showed "fantastic loyalty" So that's where isn't it? Unless I've
       massively misinterpreted it?
       I'm just saying if I was going to leave my employer and then
       they offered me loads more money and I said "fair enough" - it
       might just be because I like money.
       Sheesh. It's fine. I'm sure Manu is lovely.
       #Post#: 19007--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: March 14, 2019, 9:44 am
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       > you said it showed "fantastic loyalty" So that's where isn't
       it?
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       Not me  :)
       #Post#: 19008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: March 14, 2019, 9:47 am
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       And you still haven't given an example of how you think a player
       shows loyalty to a club. You have some very odd and cynical
       views.
       #Post#: 19009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Tuilagi not going to France shock 
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: March 14, 2019, 9:52 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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       > And you still haven't given an example of how you think a
       player shows loyalty to a club. You have some very odd and
       cynical views.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Oh ffs - if it wasn't you then stop having a pop!
       There's nothing odd about thinking that Manu freaking Tuliagi -
       literally never spoken about by anyone as the life and soul of
       Tigers - has maybe stayed for loads of cash and a shot at the
       world cup. Really. It's not that odd.
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