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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
Date: March 7, 2019, 1:09 pm
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> ...Either the Mail are just blowing it out of proportion by
sensationalising it, or...
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It's not like they've form in doing this...
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: DOK
Date: March 7, 2019, 4:23 pm
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If I was Saracens, perish the thought, I mean the bit of
Saracens that allegedly is responsible for creative ways of
keeping payments off the books, then I'd be worried about what
started this. If the Mail just decided to go digging, do a bit
of investigative journalism if you would, then that's one thing.
If they have an actual, honest to goodness informant who has
decided to spill beans going way back... Then a lot of lawyers
are going to get very rich in a very short space of time.
#Post#: 18449--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: Only Joe Quin
Date: March 7, 2019, 4:42 pm
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So far there’s absolutely nothing to this at all, the Mail have
produced lots of speculation from the flimsiest of bases but no
evidence of any wrongdoing. That doesn’t mean there isn’t any of
course and I like a nice conspiracy theory as much as anyone. :o
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: March 7, 2019, 6:02 pm
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> It's not like they've form in doing this...
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They certainly have a lot of form in very careful uncovering of
scandal and calling out of impropriety.
The internet sidebar of shame does not define the Mail’s
history.
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
Date: March 7, 2019, 6:23 pm
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Spoil sport
#Post#: 18456--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: marlowish
Date: March 8, 2019, 3:15 am
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--- Quote from: DOK link ---
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> My guess, and it is just that, is the Mail are building a case
by drip feeding information and there's SHOCK! HORROR! to come.
Otherwise why didn't they just announce the Itoje thing with the
others? It could be an attempt to create an atmosphere where
"sweeping it under the carpet" is not possible.
>
> As for the England situation, there is a big difference
between what the clubs do and what the RFU do. That's the whole
club vs country issue. The salary cap is something between the
clubs, PRL and the players. I don't see it having anything to do
with England/RFU.
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I agree
--- Quote from: DOK link ---
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> As I said, nice to see all these senior players starting to
learn how to make their own way in the world and planning for
their post rugby situation. And it's all the players you might
have thought would have difficulty fitting under a salary cap.
Strange that.
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> And as I said, suspect the Mail has other ammunition from a 4
month investigation.
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Yes many of the left do not like the DM ( not my rag of choice)
but some of their investigation journalism is very good. It may
fly in the face of people's own personal liberal narrative
however.
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: marlowish
Date: March 8, 2019, 3:17 am
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--- Quote from: InsertQuinsPunHere link ---
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> It's not like they've form in doing this...
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they have also dome so excellent investigations - generalising
is childish
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: harlequins
Date: March 8, 2019, 3:46 am
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Let us see what happens. If, and it is an 'if', Saracens have
been buying houses etc. and then handing them over below true
value or if they have been funnelling other revenue through the
companies then they deserve all they get. But what will they
get? - fined? Saracens will just pay it and just continue.
Perhaps we need a Fair Play like in football and for anyone
found to be cheating ban any recruitment plus a fine. I am not
saying Saracens are guilty but they sure have a track record.
As another option, is it not time for fans to stop going to any
Saracens away game? It does not help your own team but a total
lack of away fans may give a message to the PRL. I can't see
though Saracens being bothered if no away fans go.
If Saracens are guilty and nothing happens then Saracens will
just continue to recruit more and more internationals and
squeeze them under the salary cap....or buy them houses, pay
them into SA bank accounts or other things they have been
accused of doing.
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: Boonie
Date: March 8, 2019, 3:50 am
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The BBC Sport take on it:
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/47481608
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Re: Have Saracens broken salary cap rules?
DIR By: Quinky
Date: March 8, 2019, 4:18 am
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--- Quote from: Boonie link ---
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> The BBC Sport take on it:
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/47481608
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>
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How funny that the only team they mention as having breached the
cap is Quins. Breached by a whopping 0.18%. Weren't Wasps also
guilty of a much higher breach?
Personally I'd trust the Mail over the BBC any day! The Mail has
a bad reputation and it makes me laugh when people dismiss
reports by saying "It's The Mail", as if that negates
everything. A bit like people quoting The Guardian as if it's a
sensible, balanced viewpoint.
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