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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: HamptonCourtJester
Date: February 22, 2019, 8:43 am
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--- Quote from: GP2110 link ---
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> There is no suggestion of resting players. By the sounds of
it, all of the changes are enforced.
>
> Crumpton - banned
> Care - injured
> Gabs - injured
> Symons - sick
>
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Yes probably didnt make my point too clear...... Friday pub
lunch lol......... I think its probably more down to opinion of
who the replacements should be, and the ones I would pick arent
the ones on the lineup. But lets be honest, thats why I work
where I do and thats why Gussy is in "the seat" :D
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: February 22, 2019, 8:47 am
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Quinky - there's not much in it, but I think "Gabs" offers more
penetration - he's bigger and bulkier - perhaps not quite as
lightening quick as Walker. Defensively they are in the same
boat.
I think that PG likes chunkier players that take and give a hit.
He does need to work on "Gabs" to make his hits. He tends to
dither when defending space and doesn't know how to deal with
the offload and who (and how) to commit to. I've seen him make
good tackles when there's no choice - and miss some.
Another different, but related aspect - some have said we hide
Marcus S to protect him: he has made some very good tackles
against some mounters, not always, but enough to make me think
he may need less protection as time goes on.
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Comet
Date: February 22, 2019, 8:54 am
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Agree with the above. Wuss were targeting Smith through the
middle, especially with their huge number 5. Smith slowed him
down or stopped him every time. I do rate Lang but am always
more excited by seeing Smith's name at Fly Half.
#Post#: 17454--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Quinky
Date: February 22, 2019, 10:06 am
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--- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
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> Quinky - there's not much in it, but I think "Gabs" offers
more penetration - he's bigger and bulkier - perhaps not quite
as lightening quick as Walker. Defensively they are in the same
boat.
>
> I think that PG likes chunkier players that take and give a
hit. He does need to work on "Gabs" to make his hits. He tends
to dither when defending space and doesn't know how to deal with
the offload and who (and how) to commit to. I've seen him make
good tackles when there's no choice - and miss some.
>
> Another different, but related aspect - some have said we hide
Marcus S to protect him: he has made some very good tackles
against some mounters, not always, but enough to make me think
he may need less protection as time goes on.
>
>
>
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Fair comments Bolly. I think Walker's defence has improved a lot
and still see it as better than Gabs. For me Walker is currently
the better all-round player who would beat Gabs for pace; on the
other hand, Walker has stagnated somewhat in terms of progress
and it seems his only weapon is pace. Gabs still has a lot more
time to develop.
I still hark back to the comments by Ollie Smith that Walker's
best position is fullback. A bit more open field play would
definitely suit him.
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: February 22, 2019, 10:38 am
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With the greatest respect to Gabs I don't think losing him for
this game is a big deal at all, and I'd say that about most
wingers. Care is the biggest loss by far as Smith will have to
direct the game all on his lonesome.
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: February 22, 2019, 10:47 am
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> Not surprised Gabs or Care are not in the squad after last
weekend.
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Well I’m not surprised they’re injured after watching them get
injured - but not sure I could have predicted they were serious
enough not to play tomrrorow. So good job!
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: February 22, 2019, 10:57 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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> There could be many reasons why he hasn't featured. Some on
here were quick to claim Visser was finished at Quins, until it
became known he'd had surgery. Some claimed Sailli (and also
Horwill) wouldn't play for Quins again. All proven wrong.
>
> I like Walker as a player, and I agree he hasn't shone this
season; he hasn't had much opportunity though. How much of that
is down to be way down the pecking order, and how much is due to
injury or other reasons, we don't know. To say Gabs has shown
him up is a bit wide of the mark; Gabs is quick and strong,
Walker is quicker. His defence isn't always great, but I'd say
it's better than Gab's. However, Walker is pure pace, and I
think that type of player always suits hard, dry ground. It may
fall into place for him, if he gets further opportunities in the
next month or so. Let's not forget that he was strongly linked
with a mid-season move but supposedly turned it down.
>
> Having said that, if he does go then I'd be disappointed.
>
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Visser wasn’t playing was he was fit as well as when injured.
Can’t see how he’s needed now. JK had issues with him as well.
Not sure anything has been proved anywhere here.
Saili had one of the longest concussion-based absences we’ve
ever seen and Horwill has played about two matches in six months
with a serious injury at the age of 33. So yes I was among those
doubting they’d come back - so yeah we were “proved wrong” but
it’s not like I’d predicted Marcus Smith would change gender,
we’d speculated entirely within the realms of possibility that
bad injuries had gone on far longer than looked hopeful....or
indeed that we were hoping we were right. So not quite sure of
the point you’re making on that one.
We do know Walker isn’t down the list because of injury because
he’s not listed as “not considered”. Nor was Visser before his
operation, he just wasn’t being picked. And they both played for
the a league.
I can’t see any way in which Gabs isn’t a much better player
than Walker - other than his defence is currently erratic at
best.
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: NevsLeftBoot
Date: February 22, 2019, 11:03 am
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Outside of who is good or not, i would argue that Walker has
been left in the wilderness over the potential of youth - they
are possibly cheaper and likely to look elsewhere if not
played/offered contracts.... Walker has been given many a chance
over quite long time (6+ years at the club).
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Monte
Date: February 22, 2019, 11:09 am
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--- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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> With the greatest respect to Gabs I don't think losing him for
this game is a big deal at all, and I'd say that about most
wingers. Care is the biggest loss by far as Smith will have to
direct the game all on his lonesome.
>
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Symons is far bigger loss than Gabs as he has been great for us
and gives good alternative to Horwill in line out
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Re: Team's Up
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: February 22, 2019, 11:31 am
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Indeed he is.
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