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Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: February 18, 2019, 9:29 am
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> Welease Bwown, and Wobshaw (and is bwother)!
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and he's a burglar
#Post#: 17311--------------------------------------------------
Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: BrixtonQuin
Date: February 19, 2019, 1:13 pm
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Brown in the 33-man squad for Scotland and released again when
filtering down to 25-man. Ditto Dan Cole of Leicester. I have no
idea why previous posts suggesting Jones is mismanaging them
have been flagged as dumb.
Brown, who Jones had previously defended to the hilt from a
baying press, is clearly currently 5th pick in the back three,
6th when Anthony Watson returns to fitness. Eddie's been clear
on the new pecking order in recent press conferences lauding
Daly as a 15 and by the fact either Nowell or Ashton make the
bench ahead of Brown, which means he is being kept about in
training squads as an experienced backup to the new crop of
starters.
He's not in serious contention for a World Cup place if Watson
returns to fitness for it, at this rate. We don't know what
Jones is saying to him privately about his WC appearance
chances, but you can only hope he's not making false promises.
I'm not sure when Brown is currently signed onto for Quins -
ditto Cole for Leicester- but if these players in the twilight
of their careers sign on to remain in England next season on the
basis of a World Cup spot that will never realistically
materialise, turning down larger Japanese or French club
paychecks in the process, then Eddie Jones will have messed them
about by keeping them in the periphery, rather than allowing
them to announce their international retirement and determine
their own futures on their own terms.
#Post#: 17312--------------------------------------------------
Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: February 19, 2019, 2:32 pm
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I’m just impressed they’re so confident about the Wales game
they’ve got the squad together for Scotland already.
#Post#: 17314--------------------------------------------------
Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: Quinky
Date: February 19, 2019, 2:58 pm
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> ...Eddie Jones will have messed them about by keeping them in
the periphery, rather than allowing them to announce their
international retirement and determine their own futures on
their own terms.
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How is he preventing them from doing so now, if they wish?
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Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: BrixtonQuin
Date: February 20, 2019, 12:01 pm
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He's not preventing them and I never suggested he's got them in
some sort of international jail despite your implication. The
point is contract negotiations happen around this time of the
year and if he's not honest with them or overly promises the
sort of involvement they can expect at the World Cup, then he
may sway their judgement about where to sign on their financial
futures.
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Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: February 20, 2019, 12:23 pm
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Anyone on the fringe of the squad right now would be a bit hasty
to sign up to anything that might affect their chance of a call
up - injuries happen frequently and Brownie (and others, Cole
too) could be back in the starting side pretty quickly.
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Re: England release Mike Brown
DIR By: Quinky
Date: February 20, 2019, 4:32 pm
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--- Quote from: BrixtonQuin link ---
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> He's not preventing them and I never suggested he's got them
in some sort of international jail despite your implication. The
point is contract negotiations happen around this time of the
year and if he's not honest with them or overly promises the
sort of involvement they can expect at the World Cup, then he
may sway their judgement about where to sign on their financial
futures.
>
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I think the implication was yours, by stating "rather than
allowing them to announce their international retirement and
determine their own futures on their own terms"
You know, suggest that he wasn't allowing them to announce their
retirement.
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