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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Boonie
Date: April 17, 2019, 5:14 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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> Don't worry I'm sure they have plans for cardboard cut-outs
and inflatable fans with a crowd soundtrack for all future
televised games.
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I feel ill...
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Monte
Date: April 17, 2019, 10:04 am
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Owen Slot on the button. CVC made money out of F1 but destroyed
the sport for British viewers. I used to watch and go to
Slverstone don't bother now or any of my friends. I have no wish
to be able to brag about having Amazon, Netflix or anything else
I have a life and don’t have time for all these subs. I enjoy
rugby. I chucked Sky and if BT give up and ring fencing comes in
will chuck season ticket/Debenture and go to my local club and
maybe the odd Six Nations. It won’t bother with pointless
matches going no where.
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: April 18, 2019, 3:25 am
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But, but there is no relegation in the 6 Nations.....
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Boonie
Date: April 18, 2019, 5:27 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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> But, but there is no relegation in the 6 Nations.....
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But there might be, one day...I hope!
#Post#: 22149--------------------------------------------------
Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
Date: April 18, 2019, 6:28 am
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An alternative viewpoint:
Premier rugby want to increase revenues. They have identified TV
as a potentially lucrative source of said increases. Does it not
therefore make sense to employ someone with strong knowledge of
and contacts in said industry?
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: April 18, 2019, 8:56 am
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--- Quote from: InsertQuinsPunHere link ---
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> An alternative viewpoint:
>
> Premier rugby want to increase revenues. They have identified
TV as a potentially lucrative source of said increases. Does it
not therefore make sense to employ someone with strong knowledge
of and contacts in said industry?
>
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Yes, on the face of it.
But (endlessly repeated) that both is and isn't what is going
on.
CVC aren't interested in rugby's future beyond its marketability
and TV rights.
Lots of people claimed they weren't in control because it was a
"27% stake".
The man who did the deal for the Prem now works for that
self-same private equity firm.
The private equity firm has placed its choice of CEO in charge
of Premiership Rugby.
He has no previous experience in sport, his only experience is
in media - and growing revenue from rights deals like he did at
UKTV.
Have no doubt that the commercial future of rugby depends only
on new markets for the game and not existing fans, people going
to stadiums or when or where anyone plays their matches.
If you imagine Premiership Rugby's role may be to protect
certain elements of the tradition of the sport - no longer. Its
explicit role is now to exploit untapped commercial environments
to sell the game to.
If those sectors want different kick off times, different days
of play, different rules -- money will rule.
#Post#: 22161--------------------------------------------------
Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Lyndo76
Date: April 18, 2019, 9:29 am
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money will indeed rule, it'll rule all decisions. For 2 or 3
years. Then CVC will sell at a profit and walk away. In the
meantime, the clubs and rugby may well benefit financially as
well the question mark will be what will rugby look like
afterwards and what happens to the fan experience in the UK as a
result.
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: April 18, 2019, 10:19 am
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--- Quote from: Lyndo76 link ---
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> money will indeed rule, it'll rule all decisions. For 2 or 3
years. Then CVC will sell at a profit and walk away. In the
meantime, the clubs and rugby may well benefit financially as
well the question mark will be what will rugby look like
afterwards and what happens to the fan experience in the UK as a
result.
>
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That's my entire point. They will cash out at the top of the
market. It's their duty to not care about the sport as a sport
in its historic context solely as a cash-generating device.
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: April 18, 2019, 10:46 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
> If you imagine Premiership Rugby's role may be to protect
certain elements of the tradition of the sport - no longer.
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You'd have to be daft to think that was their original role.
They've always been about providing the clubs with collective
bargaining power and seeking to increase revenue.
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Re: The CVC factor begins - and ringfencing
DIR By: Yareet
Date: April 18, 2019, 10:51 am
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--- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
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>
> If those sectors want different kick off times, different days
of play, different rules -- money will rule.
>
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of this but...
We already have evening kick offs
We already have games on Friday, Saturday and Sunday
I'm not sure how a league (i.e. Prem Rugby) can massively change
the laws (not rules, dear boy!) of the game. That for me is the
big difference between the CVC/PRL deal and their ownership of
F1.
They can suggest law changes but even in England, wouldn't the
RFU have to ratify them?
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