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#Post#: 204--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Sergey Pupko Date: January 25, 2015, 9:53 pm
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Just won a race in the HPD in the setup I mailed to MM.
Here's the verdict: The set is good from lap 3 (when the tires
come up to temp) right up until lap 14-15. That's when things
get edgy in the infield. I think it's a bad idea dropping the
left tires down to 20.X PSI. I will try to bump them up to like
22-22.5. It'll mean that they won't come up to temp evenly but
also won't wear out so quickly.
Fastest lap was 1:38.123 with no draft on lap 4, and the average
was 1:39.5. Not too impressive considering my times in the roar.
Mind you, I think the setup felt better in the roar as well.
I will keep working on fine-tuning to see if I can get some more
stability and speed out of it for the 24.
EDIT: I realized why my tires went so fast. I dropped into first
gear on pretty much every corner starting from 1-2 combo, the
in-field hairpins and even the corner that leads onto the oval.
I'll try to keep it in 2nd and see if that helps.
#Post#: 205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Eric Estes Date: January 26, 2015, 8:20 pm
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I'll need a lot of practice to get used to this one. I'm
overall about a second slower. I think the main issue I'm
having is that it's set up oval-centric with the much higher
pressures on the right side, but my top speed is down
significantly so I'm seeing no benefit from that, and after
about 5 laps the bus stop becomes much more difficult on the
right-right combination. I'm going to try keeping all the other
changes but leveling the car out (hot tires) and see what
happens.
Ok, did that and promptly set a solo new testing record lap
(1:37.077). Have yet to do a full run but figured I'd get it
out there.
#Post#: 206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Eric Estes Date: January 26, 2015, 8:50 pm
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Not precisely balanced hot, but close. Still a little higher on
the right. Did move the 3rd spring back to soft.
Sergey - with the car being a Downforce car, I think it is going
to be more important to maintain the ground to bottom geometry
of the car than the tire temperatures. That will require
maintaining the pressures balance as close as possible, while
letting the temperatures do what they may. As long as no single
tire (right front) gets too hot, we should be good.
Emailed
#Post#: 207--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Eric Estes Date: January 26, 2015, 10:43 pm
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Also sent a completely different setup you may want to try.
Requires a different line into Turn 1 or it will push on exit,
but has great drive off the corners. Much softer rear springs
and No rear sway bar.
Emailed as well
#Post#: 208--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Sergey Pupko Date: January 26, 2015, 11:00 pm
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Thanks for the feedback. I was experimenting, so I don't take
offense ;)
I'll give a shot at your set, and now that we can do practice
sessions in race climate, I will be able to feel it a lot better
:)
#Post#: 209--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Sergey Pupko Date: January 27, 2015, 1:13 am
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[quote author=Eric Estes link=topic=3.msg207#msg207
date=1422333795]
Also sent a completely different setup you may want to try.
Requires a different line into Turn 1 or it will push on exit,
but has great drive off the corners. Much softer rear springs
and No rear sway bar.
Emailed as well
[/quote]
Thank you, thank you thank you!!! I put this setup on, started
doing high 1:37's right away. All I did was change rear ARB rate
to 57 and it stopped understeering. I also tried using 2nd gear
through all the in-field stuff and it feels great. Once I
adjusted ARB rate I went down to mid-low 1:37's. And when I put
it on low fuel, first flying lap scored a 1:36.2! I think by
tomorrow I'll be able to get a quali of 1:35.X. That's my goal
for tomorrow. I will have a lot of time to practice. Once I
achieve 1:35 quali time, I will then go and practice race setup.
Also, I noticed I was consistently in the 1:37's on full tank
set. I did not go into :38's. The car feels GREAT!!! :D Will
post replay on YouTube tomorrow.
#Post#: 211--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Bill Krause Date: January 27, 2015, 12:05 pm
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[quote author=Sergey Pupko link=topic=3.msg209#msg209
date=1422342826]
[quote author=Eric Estes link=topic=3.msg207#msg207
date=1422333795]
Also sent a completely different setup you may want to try.
Requires a different line into Turn 1 or it will push on exit,
but has great drive off the corners. Much softer rear springs
and No rear sway bar.
Emailed as well
[/quote]
Thank you, thank you thank you!!! I put this setup on, started
doing high 1:37's right away. All I did was change rear ARB rate
to 57 and it stopped understeering. I also tried using 2nd gear
through all the in-field stuff and it feels great. Once I
adjusted ARB rate I went down to mid-low 1:37's. And when I put
it on low fuel, first flying lap scored a 1:36.2! I think by
tomorrow I'll be able to get a quali of 1:35.X. That's my goal
for tomorrow. I will have a lot of time to practice. Once I
achieve 1:35 quali time, I will then go and practice race setup.
Also, I noticed I was consistently in the 1:37's on full tank
set. I did not go into :38's. The car feels GREAT!!! :D Will
post replay on YouTube tomorrow.
[/quote]
Yes, I independently also added the rear ARB to 57 set the TC to
4 and dropped the front end one step left and right. I made one
in the 37's and consentingly in the 38s. Attached below.
I like to have some TC to work with as the stint progresses. I
find a little rearward brake bias as the stint goes on helps get
rid of the push.
#Post#: 213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Jarred Simcoe Date: January 27, 2015, 1:11 pm
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[quote]• The HPD getting more rear differential ratio options
• We are working on having the pit crew replace parts that are
too damaged to repair, instead of simply ending your race with a
disqualification for being too damaged. Replacing a part will
generally take a fairly long amount of time (particularly if
multiple parts are badly damaged), so in short races you may not
be able to get your car fixed before the race is over. For
instance, swapping in a fresh engine can take just over 30
minutes, and replacing the suspension on a corner of the car
will take just over 8 minutes. We only will be focused on cars
that will be in the Daytona 24 hour race for this build as we do
not have enough time to test every car but in the future we will
include all cars.
• Our plan is for a Thursday Build. Release notes will be coming
with build but we wanted to give a heads up on a few things.
[/quote]
incase you didnt notice the thread posted here
HTML http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3296703.page
#Post#: 216--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Sergey Pupko Date: January 27, 2015, 1:17 pm
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That is quite a relief to read that they're going to implement a
better repair model than just "your race is done because you
have some front wing damage."
#Post#: 219--------------------------------------------------
Re: Setup discussion
By: Justin E Date: January 27, 2015, 1:57 pm
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also liking the setup eric, fast and smooth!
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