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       #Post#: 359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Jack Baker
       Date: February 2, 2015, 4:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Bill Krause link ---
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       > [quote author=Dave Petts link=topic=18.msg352#msg352
       date=1422815527]
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       > Having just done a couple of laps of Sebring Night I vote for
       whatever car has the best lights. Damn it's dark.
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       Don't know if they fixed it.  But when the HPD last ran there
       and they had some minor nose damage that lost their lights.
       Then went into the pits to repair.  The HPD's could see their
       lights but everyone else could not.  Like playing Skyrim with an
       invisibility spell.
       [/quote]  That sounds kinda awesome
       #Post#: 362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Eric Estes
       Date: February 2, 2015, 6:32 am
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       HPD
       #Post#: 368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Eric Estes
       Date: February 3, 2015, 12:03 pm
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       FYI on Sebring:
       Kevin Bobbitt wrote:
       Sebring will be a day race. This has nothing to do with repairs
       only that we strongly believe this will be better for all
       participants. Sebring is incredibly dark at night as most of the
       track does not have lighting. Plus, the real race is held mostly
       during daylight hours.
       #Post#: 369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Bill Krause
       Date: February 3, 2015, 12:44 pm
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       I would like to have four drive teams.   Five maximum.
       I like running endurance racing because it allows for judgement
       of speed and safety.  Personally I like running three
       consecutive stints.  About 2.5 hours.  That would make some team
       strategy as to which drivers take the extra time.
       #Post#: 370--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: MM
       Date: February 3, 2015, 1:27 pm
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       Good know that's it's a day race!
       Looks like we're split up a little with HPD and GT, I believe
       with a few more drivers we can have 2 HPDs and one GT car with 4
       man teams.
       I'll go recruit from the list of drivers who applied for last
       race and see what happens.
       #Post#: 372--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Dave Petts
       Date: February 3, 2015, 2:17 pm
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       What a relief. I really wasn't looking forward to the hours of
       practice I'd have put in just to get the hang of Sebring at
       night. I've done loads of laps of Sebring and feel like I know
       it like the back of my hand, but at night it's just a confusing
       blur of darkness.
       For a daytime race my preference for car might have just swung
       back towards the HPD.  ???
       #Post#: 376--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Sergey Pupko
       Date: February 3, 2015, 7:15 pm
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       I actually liked sebring at night :P
       But day won't hurt. :D
       #Post#: 377--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Justin E
       Date: February 3, 2015, 9:26 pm
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       anyone play around with setups yet?
       Im liking a medium downforce over the low... obviously losing
       time on the straights but seem to make it up in the turns over
       the lap... plus with the bumpy and slippy surface, might be the
       way to go
       #Post#: 378--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Sergey Pupko
       Date: February 3, 2015, 10:08 pm
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       Justin, MDF for HPD at Sebring is the equivalent of shooting
       yourself in the foot. Granted the car will feel more controlled
       but you will lose so much time and speed on the straights that
       there is no chance at a win. Plus, passing GT's there requires
       maximum top speed you can muster because if you can't pass it
       before the sunset corner, it will slow you down even more.
       I've always seen the HPD/IndyCar/F1 as something that you need
       to feel uncomfortable in. It needs to keep you on edge. Granted,
       at Daytona the HPD felt absolutely planted even with low
       downforce, but that's rare. I say start with low downforce
       (always) and try to make it comfortable. I always go with the
       quote "If it feels like everything is under control, you're not
       pushing hard enough." Racing prototypes and open-wheel isn't
       about feeling control and comfort, it's about going as fast as
       possible because that's when the car gives you the most control.
       I think we need to work off of the Daytona setup, just for
       bumpier road. I think the tires might react different to Sebring
       but we can make small changes that will make the difference.
       1st: make sure it doesn't lock up easily under braking, 2nd: try
       to keep snap over-steer at bay, 3rd: gearing and finally play
       with TC to make sure you eliminate as much wheelspin as
       possible. :)
       TL;DR: I'm rambling about setups while knowing very little about
       setups, I'm just trying to think out loud (or in this case, in
       text).
       #Post#: 379--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sebring 2nd team proposals and ideas
   DIR By: Eric Estes
       Date: February 4, 2015, 6:31 am
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       I think you will be surprised at Sebring.  I haven't done a
       lot of HPD testing, but I know in the GT cars and even the
       open-wheelers higher DF has always been faster.  With the long
       straights you wouldn't think so, but getting through the primary
       corners to launch into those straights requires the DF - turn 5,
       the safety pin, tower turn, Le Mans, and Sunset.
       I always start Low DF as well, but usually end up somewhat
       higher at Sebring.  It's counterintuitive, but I can't argue
       with results.  Got spanked by Wyatt Gooden at Sebring once in a
       league race and he was running a high DF setup and clicking off
       the fastest laps  :o.  So just be sure and give the higher DF's
       a try.
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