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       #Post#: 877--------------------------------------------------
       Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: ubersketch
       Date: April 29, 2018, 6:50 pm
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       Rules and pieces are the same as FIDE Chess except when pieces
       are mated, all pieces forcing it into mate are frozen forever.
       Very simple variant but very interesting concept.
       #Post#: 884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: John_Lewis
       Date: May 1, 2018, 8:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: ubersketch link ---
       >
       > Rules and pieces are the same as FIDE Chess except when pieces
       are mated, all pieces forcing it into mate are frozen forever.
       > Very simple variant but very interesting concept.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you mean when I piece is "attackable" it is frozen?
       #Post#: 893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: ubersketch
       Date: May 13, 2018, 1:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: John_Lewis link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ubersketch link=topic=132.msg877#msg877
       date=1525045801]
       > Rules and pieces are the same as FIDE Chess except when pieces
       are mated, all pieces forcing it into mate are frozen forever.
       > Very simple variant but very interesting concept.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you mean when I piece is "attackable" it is frozen?
       [/quote]
       No, I mean that if any piece putting another piece into
       checkmate are frozen.
       #Post#: 896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: John_Lewis
       Date: May 13, 2018, 10:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: ubersketch link ---
       >
       > [quote author=John_Lewis link=topic=132.msg884#msg884
       date=1525224184]
       > [quote author=ubersketch link=topic=132.msg877#msg877
       date=1525045801]
       > Rules and pieces are the same as FIDE Chess except when pieces
       are mated, all pieces forcing it into mate are frozen forever.
       > Very simple variant but very interesting concept.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you mean when I piece is "attackable" it is frozen?
       [/quote]
       No, I mean that if any piece putting another piece into
       checkmate are frozen.
       [/quote]
       I don't understand because I think we are using the word
       Checkmate differently. When I say Checkmate, it's the end of the
       game because one King can make no legal move and is also being
       attacked. This is the win condition so it ends the game.
       Other pieces can't be Checkmated or even put into Check... as
       only the King (or another Royal piece in some variants) can be
       put into Check.
       #Post#: 897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: BenR
       Date: May 15, 2018, 4:19 pm
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       I also don't understand the proposal either.  Does attacking a
       pinned piece count as checkmating it?  If many pieces checkmate
       another, but some proper subset achieves the checkmate, do you
       get to choose which ones freeze, or do all of the pieces that
       attack any of the defender's movement possibilities freeze?
       If I attack a blocked pawn with anything, I lose that piece,
       right?  This seems like it would lead to a very sluggish game...
       Do you win upon checkmating the enemy king, even though
       afterwards your checking piece is frozen and no longer giving
       check?
       #Post#: 898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: ubersketch
       Date: May 16, 2018, 6:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: BenR link ---
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       > I also don't understand the proposal either.  Does attacking a
       pinned piece count as checkmating it?  If many pieces checkmate
       another, but some proper subset achieves the checkmate, do you
       get to choose which ones freeze, or do all of the pieces that
       attack any of the defender's movement possibilities freeze?
       >
       > If I attack a blocked pawn with anything, I lose that piece,
       right?  This seems like it would lead to a very sluggish game...
       >
       > Do you win upon checkmating the enemy king, even though
       afterwards your checking piece is frozen and no longer giving
       check?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Every piece is frozen.
       You win upon checkmating the enemy king, meaning it doesn't have
       anywhere to go without getting captured.
       #Post#: 900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Freezemate Chess
   DIR By: John_Lewis
       Date: May 17, 2018, 8:24 am
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       To understand this, I think you'll need to give an example game.
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