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CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
By: Asher Hurowitz Date: March 26, 2018, 4:36 pm
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Greetings!
Originally I used the "beginner's" method for the 3x3x3 cube,
and I averaged around forty five seconds, but I have been
experimenting with various speed methods to get my times down.
After some dawdling around Petrus, Heise and Roux for a few
years, I am finally biting the bullet and currently learning the
most popular method by far, CFOP, with it's whopping ~120
algorithms for the last layer alone. I am still sticking with
intuitive F2L Pairs, although they are horribly inefficient at
the moment (I still need time to figure out new tricks), and am
learning the last few 2 Look PLLs and OLLs before I learn 1 Look
PLL, then algorithmic F2L (which I ought to learn sooner) and
then finally the daunting 52 1 Look OLLs! Golly!
This is a side project I'm working on, which is in no way at the
center of my current attention, so it will take a while. I'll
post updates on my progress, and if anyone is embarking on this
quest as well, feel free to talk about it here!
Thanks,
Asher
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Re: CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
By: GothicChessInventor Date: March 26, 2018, 8:14 pm
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[quote author=Asher Hurowitz link=topic=101.msg653#msg653
date=1522100216]
Greetings!
Originally I used the "beginner's" method for the 3x3x3 cube,
and I averaged around forty five seconds, but I have been
experimenting with various speed methods to get my times down.
After some dawdling around Petrus, Heise and Roux for a few
years, I am finally biting the bullet and currently learning the
most popular method by far, CFOP, with it's whopping ~120
algorithms for the last layer alone. I am still sticking with
intuitive F2L Pairs, although they are horribly inefficient at
the moment (I still need time to figure out new tricks), and am
learning the last few 2 Look PLLs and OLLs before I learn 1 Look
PLL, then algorithmic F2L (which I ought to learn sooner) and
then finally the daunting 52 1 Look OLLs! Golly!
This is a side project I'm working on, which is in no way at the
center of my current attention, so it will take a while. I'll
post updates on my progress, and if anyone is embarking on this
quest as well, feel free to talk about it here!
Thanks,
Asher
[/quote]
My personal best is 25 seconds, which I was never able to
repeat. My average is 35 seconds, but I do a weird method of my
own undertaking. I solve top and bottom simultaneously. Then the
last edges are a snap. I have been wanting to learn CFOP but the
alg list is considerable and the look-ahead requires lots of
practice. Maybe we can "team learn" it?
#Post#: 659--------------------------------------------------
Re: CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
By: Asher Hurowitz Date: March 27, 2018, 5:41 am
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[quote author=GothicChessInventor link=topic=101.msg656#msg656
date=1522113258]
My personal best is 25 seconds, which I was never able to
repeat. My average is 35 seconds, but I do a weird method of my
own undertaking. I solve top and bottom simultaneously. Then the
last edges are a snap. [/quote]
I am extremely curious as to how your method works, as a method
constructor with one currently in development, if you would care
to explain your methodology that would be awesome!
[quote author=GothicChessInventor link=topic=101.msg656#msg656
date=1522113258]
I have been wanting to learn CFOP but the alg list is
considerable and the look-ahead requires lots of practice. Maybe
we can "team learn" it?
[/quote]
Yes! Totally! ;D
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Re: CFOP on the 3x3x3 Cube
By: GothicChessInventor Date: March 27, 2018, 8:35 am
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[quote author=Asher Hurowitz link=topic=101.msg659#msg659
date=1522147287]
I am extremely curious as to how your method works, as a method
constructor with one currently in development, if you would care
to explain your methodology that would be awesome!
[/quote]
I guess what I should do is make a few videos of my solves,
maybe a dozen, so that I can explain it better. It is difficult
to explain an intuitive process deductively, which is
essentially what I would be attempting. I first solved the 3x3x3
in 1981, about a year before "books" came out, or at least those
that I was aware of at the time. It wasn't until a few years
later, when the 4x4x4 came out, that I changed my 3x3x3 method.
I could sight-solve one side without making a move on the 3x3x3
cube, and I still can do this. With no more than "3 glances" as
progress is being made, I can sight-solve top and bottom sides.
This will be the most difficult part to explain because it's not
really an "alg list" that I use. The remainder is easy to
explain, because that is an "alg list" I have for the remaining
edges.
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