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       #Post#: 87774--------------------------------------------------
       Recoil Spring Fix for deep covers and thick fingers
   DIR By: joe_indi
       Date: March 14, 2021, 12:11 am
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       Many a time we have the recoil spring not cooperating in being
       put back. This happens more in those narrow and deep covers, and
       big hands or thick fingers seem to be a liability.
       I have had one of those for a very long time, around 18 years
       and the owner never came back.
       Recently I was going through the old stuff and found this little
       Castor (which recently I found was Alpina Castor from Italy)
       It was a fine example of such a saw. With the virus causing a
       near 90% drop in business I had time enough to have a go at it
       again.
       After 2 days of bruised fingers, ego and frustration I was ready
       to bring the curtains down on this little Castor . But, I
       hesitated because it looked barely used.
       After racking my brains I hit upon a possible solution. And it
       worked!
       Winding the spring inside the cover was the problem. Why not do
       it outside the cover and drop it in?
       So I wound it up outside, used four bits of binding wire to hold
       it in place, dropped it into the cover. Went in easily. So far
       so good. All I needed to do was remove the binding wire now.
       Easier said than done!
       After the second wire was out, the spring jumped out and tied
       itself in knots.
       No good that method.
       So I now knew the spring needed to be wound outside, needed to
       be restricted outside and dropped in, without risking the
       removal of the restriction. A tall order. That was what I
       thought. But then the Redneck bulb flashed ;D
       Why not try the covers that come on some chainsaws? And to me
       the 038/380/381 was the best example. It was just a few minutes
       work to locate one in my garbage pile ( the metal stuff is never
       thrown out, one can never say when some use will arise for the
       junk)
       It took 2 minutes to wind the spring into the case 10 seconds to
       drop it into the starter cover and a few minutes later the
       starter was assembled :D
       And 5 minutes to fit it back on and try it successfully.
       But the saw had been lying idle for such a long time that the
       tubes had disintegrated. So I checked it out by squirting some
       fuel down the carb and at the 5th full the saw came to life!
       But I spent a day on it and it finally is up and running.
       I have posted a link to a video in my Google drive as another
       topic
       This is that post
  HTML http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chainsaws-not-listed/castor-chainsaw-first-start-after-a-very-long-time/new/#new
       But here are the pictures of my recoil spring fix, which should
       work for other saws too.
       #Post#: 87775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recoil Spring Fix for deep covers and thick fingers
   DIR By: joe_indi
       Date: March 14, 2021, 12:16 am
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       --- Quote from: joe_indi link ---
       >
       > Many a time we have the recoil spring not cooperating in being
       put back. This happens more in those narrow and deep covers, and
       big hands or thick fingers seem to be a liability.
       > I have had one of those for a very long time, around 18 years
       and the owner never came back.
       > Recently I was going through the old stuff and found this
       little Castor (which recently I found was Alpina Castor from
       Italy)
       > It was a fine example of such a saw. With the virus causing a
       near 90% drop in business I had time enough to have a go at it
       again.
       > After 2 days of bruised fingers, ego and frustration I was
       ready to bring the curtains down on this little Castor . But, I
       hesitated because it looked barely used.
       > After racking my brains I hit upon a possible solution. And it
       worked!
       > Winding the spring inside the cover was the problem. Why not
       do it outside the cover and drop it in?
       > So I wound it up outside, used four bits of binding wire to
       hold it in place, dropped it into the cover. Went in easily. So
       far so good. All I needed to do was remove the binding wire now.
       Easier said than done!
       > After the second wire was out, the spring jumped out and tied
       itself in knots.
       > No good that method.
       > So I now knew the spring needed to be wound outside, needed to
       be restricted outside and dropped in, without risking the
       removal of the restriction. A tall order. That was what I
       thought. But then the Redneck bulb flashed ;D
       > Why not try the covers that come on some chainsaws? And to me
       the 038/380/381 was the best example. It was just a few minutes
       work to locate one in my garbage pile ( the metal stuff is never
       thrown out, one can never say when some use will arise for the
       junk)
       > It took 2 minutes to wind the spring into the case 10 seconds
       to drop it into the starter cover and a few minutes later the
       starter was assembled :D
       > And 5 minutes to fit it back on and try it successfully.
       > But the saw had been lying idle for such a long time that the
       tubes had disintegrated. So I checked it out by squirting some
       fuel down the carb and at the 5th full the saw came to life!
       > But I spent a day on it and it finally is up and running.
       > I have posted a link to a video in my Google drive as another
       topic
       > This is that post
  HTML http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chainsaws-not-listed/castor-chainsaw-first-start-after-a-very-long-time/new/#new
       >
       > But here are the pictures of my recoil spring fix, which
       should work for other saws too.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 87777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recoil Spring Fix for deep covers and thick fingers
   DIR By: Cut4fun
       Date: March 14, 2021, 7:10 am
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       They sure can be fun at times getting the spring back in. Once
       you learn the trick much easier.
       But sometimes I still have a fubarr.
       #Post#: 87783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recoil Spring Fix for deep covers and thick fingers
   DIR By: 3000 FPS
       Date: March 15, 2021, 6:59 pm
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       I wind the spring up in my hands and then clamp it with a pair
       of needle nose vice grips.   Then drop it in place and push the
       spring down flat with one hand while I am releasing the vice
       grip with the other hand.   Took some practice but I got pretty
       good at it.
       #Post#: 87811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recoil Spring Fix for deep covers and thick fingers
   DIR By: Cut4fun
       Date: March 23, 2021, 7:36 am
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       I wish they were all incased like Joe shows.
       #Post#: 88197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recoil Spring Fix for deep covers and thick fingers
   DIR By: Cut4fun
       Date: July 18, 2021, 8:53 am
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       2 of them in 2 days.
       1 first try 5 mins, 2nd one 4-5 tries and lost track of how long
       in mins
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