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       #Post#: 76598--------------------------------------------------
       Pocket Chain Breaker
       By: Philbert Date: March 19, 2017, 10:15 pm
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       A lot of 'old guys' say that these are all that they used to
       join or repair chains in the field.  I mentioned these in
       another thread, and wanted to try one: found an Archer brand
       model on eBay for about $18, shipped.
       The tools comes with an anvil (bottom in photo) that is similar
       to the one that came with my bench top breaker punch (top in
       photo); a punch to drive out the rivet; and a concave punch -
       presumably to shape the rivet head?  There were no instructions.
       Maybe I was doing it wrong?  But I was pretty disappointed.
       Ended up having to use a fairly large (24oz) ball pein hammer to
       drive out the rivets on some 3/8 low profile chain.  Ended up
       deforming the links too.  I suppose that I could file or grind
       off the rivet heads first, but then I probably don't need this
       set - could probably pry the tie strap off with a small
       screwdriver.
       I was able to get better results with my Granberg Break-N-Mend,
       and much better results with my bench top chain breaker.
       Would like to hear any tips or advice from guys who used these.
       Maybe the $40 Oregon one is better and worth the extra $?
       Thanks.
       Philbert
       #Post#: 76599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pocket Chain Breaker
       By: Philbert Date: March 19, 2017, 10:19 pm
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       Note, in the photos above, that the pocket breaker anvil also
       did not have any recesses for the top plate of cutter teeth (see
       image from Oregon M&S Manual).  This means that it only really
       works for links where there are tie straps on both sides,
       limiting its use.
       Philbert
       #Post#: 76602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pocket Chain Breaker
       By: Cut4fun Date: March 20, 2017, 11:18 am
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       Helps if you grind the rivet head off before punching it
       through.
       Looks like you bent the heck out of the drive link in pic.
       #Post#: 76603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pocket Chain Breaker
       By: Philbert Date: March 20, 2017, 11:46 am
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       [quote author=Cut4fun link=topic=6375.msg76602#msg76602
       date=1490026685]
       Helps if you grind the rivet head off before punching it
       through.[/quote]
       Trying to avoid that - if I have to grind (shop) or file (field)
       the head off, I can probably pry the tie straps off without this
       tool.
       I think that this punch may also be large for the smaller, 3/8
       low profile rivets.  Will have to try on some larger pitch
       chains.
       [quote author=Cut4fun link=topic=6375.msg76602#msg76602
       date=1490026685]
       Looks like you bent the heck out of the drive link in
       pic.[/quote]
       Full disclosure - that drive link was already bent - part of the
       reason that this chain was in my 'scrap pile'.
       Philbert
       #Post#: 76608--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pocket Chain Breaker
       By: HolmenTree Date: March 20, 2017, 9:25 pm
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       You can't reuse a punched out preset link if you grind off the
       rivet head.
       Trick is out in the bush you need a flat solid rock to lay the
       anvil on or a soild chunk of iron on a skidder blade.
       Granberg break n mend works the best with the adjustable anvil.
       3/8 lo pro chain should be used in the .325 anvil slot.(or .250
       can't remember)
       #Post#: 76611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pocket Chain Breaker
       By: Philbert Date: March 21, 2017, 11:29 am
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       On this model, the 3/8 low pro chain fit best in the .250 slot.
       But I think that punch may be too large for it. It is noticeably
       larger than the punch in my bench tip breaker press.
       Tried it with full sized 3/8 pitch chain. Still disappointed.
       JMHO
       Philbert
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