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       #Post#: 70337--------------------------------------------------
       Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 16, 2016, 12:10 pm
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       I was looking at this pic of a dolmar 5105 with heated handles
       and noticed the recoil looked different to me. Even has Easy
       start on it.
       So now a pro grade saw has easy start that works like the ones
       on the stihl 180 250 etc?
       #Post#: 70339--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: 660magnum Date: March 16, 2016, 1:09 pm
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       My 5105 doesn't work exactly like the Stihls.
       Both brands have have a secondary spring between the starter
       pulley and the crankshaft.
       But the Stihl starter cord will pull all the way out and then
       the saw will turn over a couple turns
       With the 5105, the secondary spring gives the engine a impulse
       reaction to the crankshaft sort of like the impulse magneto on
       the old tractors.
       Brad Snelling demonstrated this with his 10 yr old daughter (at
       the time in early 2009) with a 420. She stood on the operator
       handle and pulled on the cord. She couldn't pull out the cord
       like you or I could but would just barely pull it through. The
       saw started right up because it would snap through the
       compression.
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       #Post#: 70342--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 16, 2016, 5:51 pm
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       Jim your 5105 had easy start? I dont remember it being any
       easier then the others we ran that day.
       Recoil on the 5105 in pic above seems wider.  ?
       #Post#: 70346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: 660magnum Date: March 16, 2016, 6:20 pm
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       I went to the dealer in Mt Gilead to buy the 5105 advertised on
       CL. He sat down in a straight chair with the PTO side of the saw
       towards him and in his lap. He tripped the brake and started
       pulling on the cord with his left hand. He could only pull it
       through one stroke at a time reaching out with his left arm.
       Sort of like Snelling's daughter.
       I was wondering what this crazy guy was up to???
       After three pulls it gave a "kick", whereas he pushed the choke
       in. The saw started the next pull.
       He stood up, reset the brake, and we went just outside the front
       door and made a few cuts.
       $350
       Later over at Detinger's, I saw the easy start stickers on the
       5105's. They were not any wider than mine. Mine is very wide
       compared with my 346XP. Two reasons, for the rim sprocket is on
       the outside of the clutch and the starter sticks way out.
       To start it in the regular fashion like with a 346, it is hard
       to pull over but if you can get it part way through the
       compression stroke, the impulse will flip it on through. It
       doesn't have to be jerked though the compression stroke but you
       can if you want to.
       My son has been using it this winter. I didn't tell him anything
       about it and he hasn't complained but he's 6'2" and 220 lbs. He
       does say it zips though the wood.
       #Post#: 70353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 16, 2016, 6:44 pm
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       Interesting I never new this about the 5105.
       #Post#: 70355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: NathanielVansickle Date: March 16, 2016, 7:19 pm
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       easy start is kinda like adding an elastostart handle to a
       saw....just gives a slight cushion to the recoil and a little
       extra spin once its over the compression stroke. Nothing like
       the easy start that is on stihls homeowner saws.
       #Post#: 70356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 16, 2016, 7:31 pm
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       [quote author=Nathaniel Vansickle
       link=topic=5758.msg70355#msg70355 date=1458173946]
       easy start is kinda like adding an elastostart handle to a
       saw....just gives a slight cushion to the recoil and a little
       extra spin once its over the compression stroke. Nothing like
       the easy start that is on stihls homeowner saws.
       [/quote]
       Starting to make sense to me now. My poulan 5020 had something
       like that.  Like a spring assist inside.
       #Post#: 70979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Dolmar 5105 Easy Start
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: April 8, 2016, 12:16 pm
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       So I do remember seeing non easy start covers after all.
       Just read this.
       5105 owners that want the older non easy start starter recoil,
       they will make the saw look narrower and being sold right.
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