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       #Post#: 4849--------------------------------------------------
       hand square filing
       By: man of stihl Date: November 13, 2011, 11:31 am
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       Well i've been playing around with a double bevel flat file to
       square sharpen my chains. I think i may be getting the hang of
       this. I honestly can say that i will be sharpening all my chains
       with this flat file from now on. Only using the round files for
       gullet cleaning or for sharpening someone else's chain. ;) I
       just wish they didn't cost so much. about $9.99 plus shipping a
       piece. I changed a round ground chain over to square and my file
       already feels half wore out. Here is my 066 9T sprocket with a
       chain i made. I'll get pics of a cutter tooth in a bit.
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       Re: hand square filing
       By: man of stihl Date: November 13, 2011, 6:13 pm
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       Here is my work chain, round ground chain converted to square. I
       know i need to clean out the gullet. Any advise would be
       appreciated. Any one else hand square file?
       #Post#: 4863--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: Snoopy Date: November 13, 2011, 6:18 pm
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       I wish somebody would put a video up showing how to square
       file!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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       Re: hand square filing
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: November 13, 2011, 6:32 pm
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       Looks like it was cutting good.
       You using the save edge? They get the metal out fast. Then I
       know guys were using the olberg or olberg copy file to finish up
       with and now using diamond coated 6 sided files to finish with.
       I never could get the hang of it to make a fast chain and was
       shown how to step by step.  Some can do it some cant.
       Couple here could make a good how to video.  ;)
       Then the guys with the modified square grinders put out some
       nice chains too. There is a Harry Bodecker modified grinder
       offered to me. But at the time I was getting out of it so I
       passed on it. Just didnt think firewood guys needed square
       grinded chain. But the ones I have did some for by hand and by
       ATOP guide as work chain loved it.
       
       #Post#: 4865--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: man of stihl Date: November 13, 2011, 6:33 pm
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       This is from mdavlee, hope he doesn't mind. :D
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       #Post#: 4867--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: Snoopy Date: November 13, 2011, 6:38 pm
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       That video is a big help. I have s swing arm grinder that benny
       whitfield build. It is patterned after the 450 simington. Works
       real good just having to get the hang of  how to set
       it!!!!!!!!!!!
       #Post#: 4868--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: mdavlee Date: November 13, 2011, 6:48 pm
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       I don't mind at all. I was going to link it. You look a little
       low in the corner for a work chain. It will dull pretty quick
       with that little beak. I go super extreme cleaning out the
       gullet. It makes less work for the double bevel that way and it
       will pull long chips almost an inch long in soft maple or
       poplar.
       #Post#: 4869--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: man of stihl Date: November 13, 2011, 6:50 pm
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       [quote author=Snoopy link=topic=538.msg4867#msg4867
       date=1321231115]
       That video is a big help. I have s swing arm grinder that benny
       whitfield build. It is patterned after the 450 simington. Works
       real good just having to get the hang of  how to set
       it!!!!!!!!!!!
       [/quote] I was kicking around the idea of a grinder also. Nate
       has a grinder that works well. I dont remember what kind it is
       though. But for now i think i'll hand file. [quote
       author=Chainsawrepair link=topic=538.msg4864#msg4864
       date=1321230766]
       Looks like it was cutting good.
       You using the save edge? They get the metal out fast. Then I
       know guys were using the olberg or olberg copy file to finish up
       with and now using diamond coated 6 sided files to finish with.
       I never could get the hang of it to make a fast chain and was
       shown how to step by step.  Some can do it some cant.
       Couple here could make a good how to video.  ;)
       Then the guys with the modified square grinders put out some
       nice chains too. There is a Harry Bodecker modified grinder
       offered to me. But at the time I was getting out of it so I
       passed on it. Just didnt think firewood guys needed square
       grinded chain. But the ones I have did some for by hand and by
       ATOP guide as work chain loved it.
       
       [/quote] Yes, i'm using a save edge double bevel. I also bought
       a Pferd 6 sided file. That file is a little harder to use IMO.
       #Post#: 4870--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: Snoopy Date: November 13, 2011, 6:56 pm
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       Benny made two of these grinders at the same time. One for him
       and one for steve morgan. That was the only two he ever made.
       When steve quit racing i bought it. I got about 10 new grinding
       wheels with it.  I will post some pics of it when i get time if
       i can!!!!!!!!!!!! Go ahead and laugh kevin ;D
       #Post#: 4871--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hand square filing
       By: mdavlee Date: November 13, 2011, 6:57 pm
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       I don't like the 6 sided triangle shaped ones. They're harder to
       hold and get a good angle. I like save edge double bevels the
       best. The first sharpening is the hardest even on square ground
       chain since it's hard to get the same angle as the grinding
       wheel.
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