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       Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: wild262 Date: October 20, 2015, 11:05 am
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       Poles saws is something I've never owned.  Could sure used one
       today cutting back the tall overhanging limbs on the edge of my
       pastures before brush hogging.  Hopefully I will get all the
       honey locust cut and burned this winter.  Nasty stuff.  >:(
       Anyway, I'm looking to buy (new or used) a good quality pole
       saw.   Cut4fun I noticed you like the Echo's.  Looks like they
       are good considering what I've read here about them on different
       sites.  Will consider any brand, just want it to last, and I can
       do the maint. on them.  I rebuild Chainsaws as a hobby, so its
       not a problem.  Weight is a major concern however.  Had back
       surgery 3 yrs. ago.  I'm not or ever will be 100%, but I can
       still cut wood for my heating stoves at 56 yrs. old.  Can anyone
       steer me in a direction here.  I would be just as happy with old
       or new as long as its not to heavy.  Many thanks. :)
       #Post#: 63562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: October 20, 2015, 11:08 am
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       The guy I sold my echo to this year was homeowner and he didnt
       want anything to do with stihl polesaw or the 4 mix system. He
       was looking for used echo in his search.
       I really really liked the echo and would buy another if needed.
  HTML http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Power-Pruners
       Back problems  :o,  I dont think the bigger extendable is what
       you want. They get heavy quick.  Look into the fix postion ones
       that are lighter.
       Also cheaper cost look at that poulan pro thats out now.
       #Post#: 63564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: wild262 Date: October 20, 2015, 11:13 am
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       Thanks Cut4fun.  Whats the 4mix system?   I know maybe some of
       them are 4 stroke.  I tend to favor 2 stroke.  More power
       smaller package, unless I'm wrong here :-\
       #Post#: 63575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: October 20, 2015, 11:43 am
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       4mix is stihls mess with to many moving parts that break IMO.
       There is a reason they are going back to 2 stokes. Thanks
       goodness.
       Adam owns them and can tell you all about them.
       [member=1119]aclarke[/member]
  HTML http://www.stihl.com/4-mix-engine-lightweight-and-with-good-lugging-power.aspx
       #Post#: 63583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: aclarke Date: October 20, 2015, 1:57 pm
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       The 4 mix 131HT units we've had have all failed (3)  with low
       hours. (Under 75hrs and a little over a year) Weak link seems to
       be the valve retainer/keeper material and or design.   Both
       exhaust and intake sides...
       Put a two stroke weed eater head on one and it works ok for tall
       hedges but it's a little weak with the chainsaw head on it.
       Like to see a two stroke head in the 35-40 cc range
       #Post#: 63586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: wild262 Date: October 20, 2015, 2:45 pm
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       Thanks for the heads up.  Was not looking to close at Stihl, but
       more so the Husky 128, or Poland Pro.   Haven't looked at Echo
       yet, but I will tomarrow.  Have a dealer 15 miles away.  I am
       leaning toward a 2-stroke.  Does anyone know if the weights they
       all post is the complete unit, or just the head without the
       pole?   Thanks
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       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: srcarr52 Date: October 20, 2015, 3:47 pm
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       [quote author=aclarke link=topic=5293.msg63583#msg63583
       date=1445367467]
       The 4 mix 131HT units we've had have all failed (3)  with low
       hours. (Under 75hrs and a little over a year) Weak link seems to
       be the valve retainer/keeper material and or design.   Both
       exhaust and intake sides...
       Put a two stroke weed eater head on one and it works ok for tall
       hedges but it's a little weak with the chainsaw head on it.
       Like to see a two stroke head in the 35-40 cc range
       [/quote]
       Sounds like someone should come up with an AM conventional
       retainer with locks instead of clipping over the valve. It's
       what we have to do on all of our racing small engines.
       #Post#: 63595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: October 20, 2015, 5:35 pm
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       [quote author=wild262 link=topic=5293.msg63586#msg63586
       date=1445370313]
       Thanks for the heads up.  Was not looking to close at Stihl, but
       more so the Husky 128, or Poland Pro.   Haven't looked at Echo
       yet, but I will tomarrow.  Have a dealer 15 miles away.  I am
       leaning toward a 2-stroke.  Does anyone know if the weights they
       all post is the complete unit, or just the head without the
       pole?   Thanks
       [/quote]
       Echo from my understanding is complete set up.
       #Post#: 63750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: wild262 Date: October 23, 2015, 4:52 am
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       The Echo I looked at today looks like a fine unit.  Pricey and a
       tad heavy though, that is with head and motor combined.  I may
       not have much a choice when it comes to weight.  Guess I need to
       check out the Poland pros.  My Dad had used Poland chainsaws
       when I was a teenager.  And all I can remember is him cussing
       them all the time.  It was in the shop more than in the timber.
       Could have been his lack of maintance ,  but that really soured
       me on Polands, and has to this day.  Maybe there better now.  No
       more than I will use one it will probably be my best option.
       Anyone have one here?   Are they rebuildable (carbs, cylinders),
       or do you just have to by new when they go bad?   Thanks
       #Post#: 63751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Homeowner looking to purchase pole saw
       By: jr27236 Date: October 23, 2015, 7:05 am
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       I just bought a Echo PPT-230 from an auction for $150. Thing
       runs mint although I have to change some case plastics. I
       haven't used it as of yet, but I can tell you from just moving
       it around that this thing is awkwardly unbalanced and heavy and
       that's not extended, although that might balance it out. It has
       a two stroke 23cc motor. They do come with or you can buy a
       shoulder strap to offset the weight off your arms . Once I use
       it for cutting I will let you know how it went.
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