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#Post#: 33011--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Eccentric Date: January 29, 2014, 12:06 pm
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Jim I'm not ignoring the PureGas link. California's a big
state. The closest place on the PureGas listing (Leggett) is
almost 3 hours drive for Merle and myself. The rest are closer
to 4-8 hours away. Sorry, I should have said something about
that the first time you posted the link.
#Post#: 33056--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: 660magnum Date: January 29, 2014, 4:07 pm
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I was talking to a guy yesterday on the phone and he got to
talking about buying gas for his Honda 2000 sports car. I got
the idea from him that in his area of the SE USA that E-0
gasoline is available, at the drive up pump, at several
automotive gasoline service stations in his city of 30,000. It
is even available as regular and premium. Certainly not
available around Ohio except at the marinas and they are not
open from November through March. I get the idea you can find it
at some local gasoline distribution terminals where they will
sell you a five gallon can full any time of year. I have not
bothered myself.
#Post#: 33106--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Chainsawrepair Date: January 30, 2014, 6:34 pm
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[quote author=Merle Nelson link=topic=2942.msg32986#msg32986
date=1390970133]
LP 1100 (if I remember correctly) is a slightly different color
than 4040 A. It is a little on the green side.
Fuel line is winging its way to you as of today Kevin. Thanks
for your kind offer to pay for line and postage, both here and
in PM. I appreciate your contribution to saw info and inviting
me to this forum, couldn’t possibly accept anything.
Sent line out to another participant today too so everyone
should have some informed thoughts coming at some point.
[/quote]
Received today Thank You.
Looks just alittle lighter yellow to me then the 4040.
Now for some warmer weather and time to do the 2 saws.
Still got a monte heater control module to replace when I get
a break in the weather, plus the freaking water pump started
leaking I noticed.
#Post#: 33107--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Eccentric Date: January 30, 2014, 7:01 pm
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Received the line yesterday afternoon. Slightly different color
than 4040A. Much stiffer than 4040A. Interesting stuff.
Looking into tapered cut ends,I can sorta see the multiple
layered construction. Will get 'em into the Poulans soon. Most
likely this weekend. Thanks again Merle!
#Post#: 33112--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Chainsawrepair Date: January 30, 2014, 7:21 pm
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I noticed epa was printed on the line. ?
#Post#: 33126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Eccentric Date: January 30, 2014, 9:36 pm
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[quote author=Cut4fun_ link=topic=2942.msg33112#msg33112
date=1391131301]
I noticed epa was printed on the line. ?
[/quote]
1100LP meets the current EPA and CARB regulations for permeation
emissions standards. Wonder if they'll start 'spot checking'
shops to see if they're using the gov approved line for
repairs......
HTML http://www.processsystems.saint-gobain.com/product_detail.aspx?id=251406
#Post#: 35862--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Eccentric Date: March 2, 2014, 10:00 pm
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Replaced the fuel line on a Skil branded Poulan 3400. Used some
LP1100 that Merle had sent me (thanks again Merle). Had some
'regular' Tygon 4040A line in the same size on hand to compare.
The LP1100 is much stiffer than the 4040A. Much less
'cooperative' when threading it through the fuel tank hole and
especially when streching it over fuel filter barbs. Had to
carefully heat and 'pre-stretch' the line before getting it over
the barbs. Even then, while getting started on the barb wasn't
hard........getting the line fully seated took more
time/struggling/swearing than usual. It also was easier to
'injure' the line by overstretching it.
I used the 4040A for the vent line as it's more pliable. The
vent line on these has a plastic double-barb fitting with a
duckbill valve inside the tank. The other end of the fitting
(in the line) passes through the hole in the top of the tank.
The line has to 'squish' quite a bit for the barb of the fitting
to seat fully in that tank hole. I was doubtful that the LP1100
would do that without excessive swearing. Will be interesting
to see how this new line holds up in the long term. Since
there's 4040A in the tank as well (vent line) this will be a
good comparison methinks. I have a few more saws to try this
line in.
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height=393]
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This pic shows the dark brown, waxy/decayed old line along with
the LP1100 and 4040A.
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height=393]
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This pic shows the 'taper cut' ends of both lines. LP1100 on
the left, and 4040A (in my hand) on the right.
[img width=700
height=393]
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[img width=700
height=393]
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Here I've carefully heated the end of the line with a lighter
and pre-stretched it on needle-nose pliers prior to fitting it
to the fuel filter barb. This LP1100 does NOT like to
stretch...
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height=393]
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Here's the vent line that I've made up with a length of 4040A.
[img width=700
height=393]
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[img width=700
height=393]
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[img width=700
height=393]
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Here's the LP1100 fuel line in place, followed by the 4040A vent
line. You can see the end of the double-barb vent fitting
peeking out through the hole in the tank. Last pic shows the
vent line end tucked in place. You can see the different colors
and 'flexiness' of the two lines. Again...........LP1100 is on
the left and 4040A is on the right.
[img width=700
height=393]
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Rebuilt the carb while I had it apart. The fuel filter had
fallen off the old line and was laying in the tank. This let a
BUNCH of crap get into the carb and clog the screens. Cleaned
'er out and put in a K10-HDB kit. Back up and running.8)
#Post#: 35863--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: 660magnum Date: March 2, 2014, 10:08 pm
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Good report
#Post#: 35917--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Eccentric Date: March 3, 2014, 7:33 pm
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Thanks Jim. That line will likely be much more resistant to
ethanol (and immersion in fuel in general). Sure isn't very
user-friendly however. Hoping the 'new' upcoming LP1200 is the
best of both worlds....
#Post#: 35918--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fuel Lines - Tygon etc
By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 3, 2014, 8:00 pm
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Nice update. Mine still laying on bench waiting for warmth and
catch up of car work. Both coming soon I hope. If it aint one
thing right now it's another it seems.
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