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#Post#: 26077--------------------------------------------------
Chain breaker and spinner
By: winland Date: October 24, 2013, 6:00 pm
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Is the woodlandpro chainbreaker and spinner combination the best
for occasional use.
I see that Bailey's has it on sale for $100
I figure if I make or repair 30 chains over the next few years,
it is worth the investment.
They also have the the male presets for .63 and female straps
for .41 (3/8" x .050)
are these pretty good prices?
I could take my chains to my local Stihl dealer for repair or to
make loops, but they can take 2 weeks to get them back to me.
#Post#: 26081--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: HolmenTree Date: October 24, 2013, 6:43 pm
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[quote author=winland link=topic=2434.msg26077#msg26077
date=1382655610]
Is the woodlandpro chainbreaker and spinner combination the best
for occasional use.
I see that Bailey's has it on sale for $100
I figure if I make or repair 30 chains over the next few years,
it is worth the investment.
They also have the the male presets for .63 and female straps
for .41 (3/8" x .050)
are these pretty good prices?
I could take my chains to my local Stihl dealer for repair or to
make loops, but they can take 2 weeks to get them back to me.
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I have owned a Stihl bench mount breaker for over 20 yrs now and
still works great, and just bought my first bench spinner last
spring from Baileys and it's the red Woodland Pro model your
looking at. It is top quality no doubt and will last me a
lifetime.
When I don't have new presets from my rolls I just reuse my
presets as long as their pressed out straight with no bends,
just have to use a ball peen hammer to rivet them..
#Post#: 26082--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: winland Date: October 24, 2013, 6:59 pm
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Do not think I can justify spending $200+ for a Stihl breaker
and another $200+ for a spanner at this time in my life.
They would definitely out last me and get sold off in the estate
auction. ;D
Will check Craigslist for any specials on the Stihl NG7
#Post#: 26086--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: 660magnum Date: October 24, 2013, 7:48 pm
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Harbor Freight is like $54.95 for their spinner/breaker
#Post#: 26098--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: Philbert Date: October 24, 2013, 9:16 pm
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I have had the Bailey's set for a few years now. It is actually
larger and heavier duty than it looks in the catalog photo. Has
worked well for a large number of chains. Good deal at that
price.
One of the key things is the ability to get parts. Punches
break, especially when you are learning to center them. I know
at least one guy with a HF unit who cannot use it because he
cannot get replacement punches that fit.
I would also order a few extra punches and a assortment of
pre-sets and tie straps for all of the chains you use, might
think you will use, or might work on for friends. They are
about $1 a set, but shipping will kill you if you ever just need
a few!
There are different sizes for different chain pitches, gauges
(sometimes), Narrow Kerf chain, and brands (Bailey's will fit
Carlton, Oregon, and a few others chains, but NOT STIHL - have
to get those from a dealer or off of eBay). Sometimes, guys who
buy chain by the reel with have a few extra.
Spinner / breaker is a great investment for chain maintenance,
even if you don't make up your own loops. Let's you replace
damaged cutters or links. Let's you re-size chains to fit
different saws/bars, re-purpose used chains (great for a chain
scrounger like me!). Etc.
Philbert
#Post#: 26099--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: Chainsawrepair Date: October 24, 2013, 9:41 pm
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I'm using the baileys set for 3-4 years now. Worth the $100 for
the set.
prices high on the presets and tie straps though. JMO
#Post#: 26101--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: 3000 FPS Date: October 24, 2013, 9:48 pm
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I have the Bailey's also and have no complaints except the
punches break easy. So I found a thread here on this forum I
think in the tool section on making your own punch. So I did
make my own punch using an old tap that had broken. I have
used that punch numerous times now and it has held up 10 times
better than the ones from Baileys.
#Post#: 26102--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: Philbert Date: October 24, 2013, 10:10 pm
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"prices high on the presets and tie straps though. JMO"
I'm all ears if you know of any place to buy/order them cheaper
(assuming that you don't get them with a reel of chain)? My
local STIHL dealer charges more, even when I ordered them in
packs of 10.
In another forum breaking punches was discussed, and centering
them over the rivets appears to be key. Some breaker anvils are
easier to position than others.
I don't re-use the pre-sets. The tie straps can often be
re-used, but you have to be careful, as some hard to see burrs
can prevent the spun rivets from seating properly, especially on
smaller pitch chain.
Philbert
#Post#: 26104--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: 660magnum Date: October 25, 2013, 12:30 am
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There's a vid on Youtube about making your own punch. You use
soft round stock to make the body with a notch for the set
screw.
There is a center hole that you insert a needle bearing roller
into. Then taper the needle roller by mounting the punch in a
drill and spinning it against a spinning grinding wheel.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itM286zYaXg
#Post#: 26108--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chain breaker and spinner
By: 660magnum Date: October 25, 2013, 3:36 am
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The bigger problem with tools like the Harbor Freight
combination Breaker/Spinner is one of quality control.
One guys HF combo tool couldn't be nicer and has lasted well
with no broken punches or anything for many rolls of chain.
And then the next guy has one that is almost unusable.
The biggest problem seems to be the two sides of the spinner
will not be aligned. The next big problem is the anvil to rest
the chain on to press the rivet out is machined slightly narrow
and will not clear the connector plate so the driver will rest
properly. This problem will also cause the punch to break. And
last the hole in the spinner shaft is not on center and will
wobble all over. I read all this on the customer reviews on the
HF website.
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