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Stihl 046 460
By: Chainsawrepair Date: July 17, 2013, 3:03 pm
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Just had what I think is a stihl 046 with stihl ms460 tank etc
on it dropped off for a rebuild. Ex tree service saw. Pics as
seen through pm's.
I tell you that new HD2 filter falls apart easily it looks like.
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Chainsawrepair Date: July 18, 2013, 3:00 pm
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Found what I believe killed this saw. Dumped fuel from tank and
went to look at fuel filter and line. Hmmmmm no fuel filter
inside tank anywhere. So I pull the carb off knowing I am going
to find it full of wood fines etc. Yep the inlet screen was jam
packed along with other carb orifices. Which in my mind created
lean condition and stuck the rings just that little bit shown in
pic about 1/4" wide score area. I'll get better pics later on
bench. Oh and that POS fallen apart stihl HD2 air filter couldnt
have helped matters.
The piston still has witness lines, cylinder just a hair of
transfer that will clean up, crank bearings looked and feel
good. De-comp button bent to where it is either stuck in or out
using force.
Oh plus the owner has opted for that DP muffler set up I used on
the 440. This 046 had the back half that needs the cage cut out
and plain cover.
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Chainsawrepair Date: July 18, 2013, 4:03 pm
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Going by what the owner of this saw told me. 1 dealer had it
for 2 weeks and 1 a month and looks like I got more done and
found out in a hour then both combined. Without a $700
estimate to fix like the others. :o ::) :o Thats just so
wrong in so many ways IMO. ;)
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Al Smith Date: July 18, 2013, 4:22 pm
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From the picture that piston doesn't look that bad . I've saved
them a lot worse than that .
Lay the sand paper to it ,it might clean up .
It looks like it got scorched on the outlet side which makes
sense if it was gas starved .Might not have done anything if the
cage had been cut out except run lousey .
From the pic the intake side doesn't appear bad so it must not
have eaten a bunch of dust
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Chainsawrepair Date: July 18, 2013, 6:43 pm
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[quote author=Al Smith link=topic=2035.msg21297#msg21297
date=1374182568]
From the picture that piston doesn't look that bad . I've saved
them a lot worse than that .
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Yep that piston will be a piece of cake to clean up IMO2. So
will the cylinder. The ring groove was marred closed some but I
have fixed way way worse in the past.
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Chainsawrepair Date: July 20, 2013, 2:58 pm
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Cylinder and piston is ready for the new rings and to put this
puppy back together. Finished up going through other side of
carb and cleaning the tank vent up too.
I bet I know why no filter was on new tank on this 046 that
helped kill it. The new 440 tank I got came with line installed
and no filter. They must have assumed it had filter and just
installed tank.
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Al Smith Date: July 20, 2013, 7:25 pm
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Until you mentioned that fact I had over looked the flippy on
the fuel tank from the picture.
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: trx250r180 Date: July 23, 2013, 5:35 pm
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looks like they been soaking that filter in gas to clean it
,loosened up the glue ?
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Cut4fun Date: July 23, 2013, 5:44 pm
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[quote author=trx250r180 link=topic=2035.msg21425#msg21425
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looks like they been soaking that filter in gas to clean it
,loosened up the glue ?
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No clue on that. But Brad aka blsnellling said he is seeing the
new HD2 coming unglued down his way too.
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Re: Stihl 046 460
By: Cut4fun Date: July 30, 2013, 5:04 pm
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Good thing I had my 16" 3/8 bar left from my 066 to make some
test cuts today (about 20 mins worth). ;D
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