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       #Post#: 636--------------------------------------------------
       Carb ?
       By: Old Iron Logging Date: March 6, 2011, 7:34 pm
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       Carb is a Walbro HDA 205-C. Set to factory spec the saw turns
       12,700. Manual says to set saw to 13,500 post break-in. Trouble
       is, as you make the carb setting leaner, the saw looses rpm.
       With the H closed off saw holds 12,000 rpm. Acts like a fuel
       governed carb, but see no governor on it. Tech at ESF saws the
       carb is not governed. Any ideas?
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       Re: Carb ?
       By: stihlbro Date: March 7, 2011, 10:57 am
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       Do you have another carburetor to bolt on to eliminate the one
       on it now?  To me if you close off the hs needle it should stop
       fuel supply, so it shouldn't turn 12,000 rpm. Sounds like the
       main jet is getting fuel from somewhere else because I dont see
       the low speed jet suppling enough fuel to turn that rpm. The
       last hda i remember had a brass plug over top of the main jet, I
       wonder if this is leaking? Fuel is getting to the engine somehow
       to run wide open throttle.
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       Re: Carb ?
       By: Old Iron Logging Date: March 7, 2011, 11:28 am
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       I tried it with another used carb and got the same result. That
       had me thinking governor. But unless they are built different
       now I can see no evidence of one. Going to try a new carb today.
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       Re: Carb ?
       By: Cut4fun Date: March 7, 2011, 11:34 am
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       Could be gov inside car.  Had 084 carbs that had some kind of
       limiter in them. Brass jet type thing inside the carb itself,
       that flooded them out like the outside brass gov we normally see
       on carbs.  JB  was used to block orifice ;)  has to be something
       better to use out there.
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       Re: Carb ?
       By: Old Iron Logging Date: March 7, 2011, 11:49 am
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       From this ill it appears to me that there is a governor under
       the idle adjustment screw. Am I reading this correctly? Look at
       part #s 17 and 33
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       #Post#: 659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Carb ?
       By: stihlbro Date: March 7, 2011, 12:09 pm
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       I've been looking at that too, it appears the hda series has the
       option of a governor.
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       Re: Carb ?
       By: Old Iron Logging Date: March 7, 2011, 12:12 pm
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       I just looked the carb over again and see nothing on the
       outside.
       #Post#: 661--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Carb ?
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 7, 2011, 12:12 pm
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       17=
       #Post#: 677--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Carb ?
       By: stihlbro Date: March 7, 2011, 3:25 pm
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       I also see the circuit plate as a possibility. Fuel has to be
       feeding the engine to see 12000 rpm. Kinds sounds like a
       governor to prevent leaning out on topend. I don't see the low
       side delievering that much fuel. Does the 205c have the circuit
       plate?
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       Re: Carb ?
       By: Old Iron Logging Date: March 8, 2011, 1:36 pm
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       Yes the 205 has a circuit plate.
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