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#Post#: 592--------------------------------------------------
Trouble with 192T
DIR By: SouthSoundTree
Date: March 6, 2011, 11:42 am
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My 192T has been in full time use for 3.5 years, with just basic
maintenance.
Usually starts fine on a full tank of gas. Seems to have more
trouble starting lower down in the tank. Wondering if its a hole
in the fuel line or something like that. When its warm, I'll
still have to full/ then half choke it to get it to start often.
Never had the carb cleaned or replaced. I will have to check the
fuel filter to make sure that its clean enough. Can't remember
when I replaced it last.
I've not take a saw carb off or cleaned one before, but I'm not
the dullest tool in the shed for maintenance/ repair work.
What would be a good starting point for testing/ cleaning. Where
can I find some info on checking/ replacing the fuel line, and
cleaning/ replacing the carb, if appropriate?
Thanks for any input. If I can repair it myself, I feel like it
would be worthwhile, but to take it to the shop wouldn't be cost
effective.
I'm hoping to sell my back-up echo top-handle and a MS 211 to
turn that money into part of the cost of a 200T, and have this
192T as a good backup and pruning saw.
#Post#: 593--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: Al Smith
Date: March 6, 2011, 11:55 am
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If it's been running that long it stands a good chance the carb
needs rebuild .
It may sound odd indeed but the ethanol in the gas causes the
carb diaphragms to loose their resiliancey over time weather
they sit or are used on a regular bassis .
Rebuilding a carb is relatively simple . Just google whatever
make of carb it is ,download the tutorial of the model and
follow directions .The kits are pretty cheap ,10-12 bucks maybe
.A little more at a dealer than a parts supplier .
#Post#: 595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: Cut4fun
Date: March 6, 2011, 12:25 pm
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Found a 192T IPL. No service manual yet.
HTML http://www.smaf-touseau.com/planche/?id_document=38
My CD only has a 190T and 191T IPL's and looks like a 192 to
me. ???
#Post#: 605--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: jamming
Date: March 6, 2011, 4:10 pm
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Maybe the tank clunker filter is dirty, sounds familiar !
#Post#: 628--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: sawinredneck
Date: March 6, 2011, 6:54 pm
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Change the fuel filter, but most likely it's the carb. Here's
where things get fun, this is a finiky damn carb and at best,
it's a 50/50 shot a rebuild will fix it. As I recall, the kit
was $25 from Stihl and the carb was $75 from Stihl.
The gaskets have to be stacked, and stacked properly for the
diaphragm to have room to move properly. Kind of a PITA for
sure!
Start with the filter, if that doesn't work, price out a carb.
If you can get the carb for $75ish, buy, put it on and be happy.
I'm pretty sure any Stihl dealer will back me up on the 50/50
call, but ask them.
#Post#: 645--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: Al Smith
Date: March 7, 2011, 7:02 am
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I don't know if these things suffered from funky carbs like the
200's or not .
I had an occasion to buy one for little nothing from a dealer
that had evidently taken a great fall like Humpty Dumpty .I
passed !
Now probabley if you disect that carb and find stiff innards
that's the problem .If not something else .Get out those tools
and get with it . ;D
#Post#: 674--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: sawinredneck
Date: March 7, 2011, 3:00 pm
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These have a worse carb than the 200t, if you can believe that!
I forget what they told me about them, but said they just gave
up on rebuilding them at my local shop. He said for a 50/50
rate, a $25ish rebuild kit and labor, it was easier, and cheaper
for the customer just to put on a new carb and run the saw.
For comparison, I think the rebuild kit for the 200t is around
$15 and unless the carb is cracked, it's easy to do, these, not
so much! You really have to pay attention to the way the gaskets
come out, as I said, they stack spacers around the diaphragm to
give it room and you need to put the same amount in, in the
right spot as you take out.
Never seen such a finicky damn carb to rebuild, I'd rather
rebuild a Q-jet than one of these things Al!
#Post#: 687--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: Al Smith
Date: March 7, 2011, 4:59 pm
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Quadra Jet ,ugh .Well I see what you mean then .
#Post#: 1116--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: SouthSoundTree
Date: March 18, 2011, 1:15 pm
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I got a carb kit to install. Never done it.
Likely be a silly question, should I use carb cleaner to clean
the carb as best I can when I rebuild. I thought somewhere I
read to use brake cleaner to soak a carb.
I have the diagram
HTML http://www.smaf-touseau.com/planche/?id_document=38
and
HTML http://www.madsens1.com/saw_carb_rebuild.htm
What do I need to know about dis/reassembly of the carb and
adjusting it?
I'm concerned about it running to high and blowing up.
Been a long time since I even adjusted a carb with a tach, now I
don't have one.
#Post#: 1132--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trouble with 192T
DIR By: SouthSoundTree
Date: March 18, 2011, 9:36 pm
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Got it fixed (I think). Wasn't bad really. Woulda helped to have
an air compressor, a lot of gunk around the carb that took a
while to clean out. Just didn't want to venture into unknown
territory and screw something up, costing more that if I had
taken it to a professional in the first place.
Thanks for the advice.
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