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2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Murray d. Robredo in
nailbiter for title
DIR By: masterclass
Date: October 18, 2014, 2:57 pm
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Valencia Open 500
[1]Ferrer v Seppi
Verdasco v Mayer
Qualifier v Youzhny
Giraldo v [6]Bautista Agut
[3]Murray v Melzer
Qualifier v Fognini
Kozlov v Klizan
Kohlschreiber v [7]Anderson
[8]Simon v Dolgopolov
Chardy v Qualifier
Granollers v Carreno Busta
Qualifier v [4]Lopez
[5]Isner v Robredo
Lu v Garcia-Lopez
Lajovic v Sousa
Andujar v [2]Berdych
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: October 18, 2014, 4:17 pm
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Thanks for posting the draw general
This should be interesting.
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: thetruth
Date: October 19, 2014, 1:34 am
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Anyone know how the final 8 is turning out? Has Berdych
qualified yet? Raonic took a hit recently.
Glad Rafa isn't playing. Not worth the risk. I wish he would let
Basel and Paris go as well.
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 19, 2014, 6:59 pm
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Basel and Valencia are both happening at the same time TT so
Rafa can't be in both tournaments.
Anyway, thanks for the draw masterclass. Andy's qtr looks rather
tricky with Fognini, Klizan, Kohlschreiber, Andserson etc. but
perhaps one match at a time.
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: masterclass
Date: October 20, 2014, 6:27 am
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You're welcome, Emma. I wouldn't be surprised to see either
Ferrer or Murray, or both falter, and maybe get a bit of rest
before Paris. The tournament in Vienna seemed tough on them.
They were barely holding it together for much of that last set.
Too bad they are drawn together for the 3rd straight tournament.
:(
Could be an opportunity for somebody else in their half, maybe
Klizan or Anderson? This tournament has fairly good depth of
10-30 ranked players. In the bottom half Berdych played a good
tourney in Stockholm. Maybe he'll continue here.
Many struggle with holding their form this time of the year.
Let's see who has it for the final push.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: thetruth
Date: October 21, 2014, 2:31 am
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--- Quote from: Emma link ---
>
> Basel and Valencia are both happening at the same time TT so
Rafa can't be in both tournaments.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the draw masterclass. Andy's qtr looks
rather tricky with Fognini, Klizan, Kohlschreiber, Andserson
etc. but perhaps one match at a time.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said Basel and Paris, Valencia is in Spain, isn't it?
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 21, 2014, 6:54 pm
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--- Quote from: masterclass link ---
>
> You're welcome, Emma. I wouldn't be surprised to see either
Ferrer or Murray, or both falter, and maybe get a bit of rest
before Paris. The tournament in Vienna seemed tough on them.
They were barely holding it together for much of that last set.
Too bad they are drawn together for the 3rd straight tournament.
:(
>
> Could be an opportunity for somebody else in their half, maybe
Klizan or Anderson? This tournament has fairly good depth of
10-30 ranked players. In the bottom half Berdych played a good
tourney in Stockholm. Maybe he'll continue here.
>
> Many struggle with holding their form this time of the year.
Let's see who has it for the final push.
>
> Respectfully,
> masterclass
>
--- End Quote ---
Hola masterclass, I thought Anderson vs Kohlschreiber would be a
cracker today but it was a pretty straight forward win for
Anderson instead, so he's definitely looking good. Perhaps
Klizan vs Anderson will be more interesting.
I am sure Andy is at least somewhat knackered but so should be
both Ferrer and Berdych and that really opens up the window for
each one. Even with Isner gone, Berdych still has Robredo,
Dolgo/Lopez in front him so it's not as given.
Ferrer is definitely a threat especially given the hometown
factor but Andy has won this title before in 2009. He needs to
though keep his matches as short as possible so that he can save
as much energy as possible.
And Ferrer has Youzhny to deal with before he meets with Andy in
the semi and that's not going to be easy. Youzhny has done quite
well here in Valencia in the past and has the lead over Ferrer
in the H2H.
So let's see.
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 21, 2014, 7:06 pm
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--- Quote from: thetruth link ---
>
> [quote author=Emma link=topic=821.msg17338#msg17338
date=1413763156]
> Basel and Valencia are both happening at the same time TT so
Rafa can't be in both tournaments.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the draw masterclass. Andy's qtr looks
rather tricky with Fognini, Klizan, Kohlschreiber, Andserson
etc. but perhaps one match at a time.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said Basel and Paris, Valencia is in Spain, isn't it?
[/quote]
The confusion isn't geographical. This is the thread for
Valencia and Nadal isn't playing here. He's in Basel. Paris is
next week. You said "Glad Rafa isn't playing", because of that,
it's easy to misunderstand especially when you had entered your
chain of thought in a separate paragraph. On a second read, I
assume you meant WTF but that's not final yet.
--- Quote from: thetruth link ---
>
> Anyone know how the final 8 is turning out? Has Berdych
qualified yet? Raonic took a hit recently.
>
> Glad Rafa isn't playing. Not worth the risk. I wish he would
let Basel and Paris go as well.
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: thetruth
Date: October 22, 2014, 3:25 am
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--- Quote from: Emma link ---
>
> [quote author=thetruth link=topic=821.msg17354#msg17354
date=1413876676]
> [quote author=Emma link=topic=821.msg17338#msg17338
date=1413763156]
> Basel and Valencia are both happening at the same time TT so
Rafa can't be in both tournaments.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the draw masterclass. Andy's qtr looks
rather tricky with Fognini, Klizan, Kohlschreiber, Andserson
etc. but perhaps one match at a time.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said Basel and Paris, Valencia is in Spain, isn't it?
[/quote]
The confusion isn't geographical. This is the thread for
Valencia and Nadal isn't playing here. He's in Basel. Paris is
next week. You said "Glad Rafa isn't playing", because of that,
it's easy to misunderstand especially when you had entered your
chain of thought in a separate paragraph. On a second read, I
assume you meant WTF but that's not final yet.
--- Quote from: thetruth link ---
>
> Anyone know how the final 8 is turning out? Has Berdych
qualified yet? Raonic took a hit recently.
>
> Glad Rafa isn't playing. Not worth the risk. I wish he would
let Basel and Paris go as well.
>
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
No confusion. I go in all threads, regardless of geographical
location to trash Nadal for playing through this period. I never
thought he was playing in Valencia, just another place to let my
displeasure be felt.
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Re: 2014 Valencia Open 500 (Oct 20-26) Draw Out!-1st post
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 22, 2014, 8:44 pm
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No worries. I just misunderstood when I first read it. :)
But Berdych is gone to Andujar. What up with that? Youzhny is
gone too and that hurt. Both Ferrer's draw and the bottom half
have opened up with these losses. Berdych, Simon, Isner all
gone. Hope Dolgo makes it to final from this half.
Anderson received a walkover from Klizan. Not sure about the
reason - perhaps injured? So it will be Anderson for Andy if he
makes past Fognini.
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