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       #Post#: 16633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western & Southern Open: Cincinnati, U.S. A. : 8/10/14
   DIR By: masterclass
       Date: August 18, 2014, 3:46 am
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       It was an excellent tournament for Roger Federer, who didn't
       know if he would be able to play after a tough week in Toronto
       where he lost in the final to Tsonga. He said his body was sore
       after playing on hard courts the full week late night after late
       night and then the short turnaround to the day final.  But he
       said that after the first couple of rounds in Cincinnati, his
       body finally felt better and the soreness was gone.  That would
       turn out to be not so good news to Andy Murray, who played well
       before succumbing again to the eventual winner of the
       tournament, and remains winless against top 10 players since
       Wimbledon 2013.  Novak Djokovic had another disappointing effort
       following Toronto and uncharacteristically lost early to Tommy
       Robredo.  Rafael Nadal remained on the sidelines trying to
       recuperate following a practice mishap prior to Toronto.  His
       status for the US Open is still uncertain.  But in any case,
       even if the other big guns couldn't make it, the elder statesman
       did not disappoint.
       Federer got to his 8th final of the year, again playing a late
       night match, this time against big server Milos Raonic that
       didn't start until about 10:30 pm. But fortunately for him Milos
       couldn't put many first serves in the court and it only took a
       bit over an hour to finish the match. So Roger had to come back
       the next day, only 16+ hours later and play in form David
       Ferrer.  I thought David played very well.  Federer started
       well, and was on top of David, putting a lot of pressure on him,
       and David finally succumbed with a double fault for the break,
       and Federer took the first set.
       But at the start of the second set David stubbornly resisted
       Federer in a very long service game where Federer had at least 3
       break points, but couldn't convert. The next game Federer showed
       his frustration and seemed a bit tired as well and David broke
       him for a 2-0 lead. After that it was pretty clear that Federer
       strategically shortened points to get a second wind and be fresh
       for the 3rd set.
       Federer made sure he won his last service game of the second set
       so that he would serve first in the decider, and after David won
       the second set, Roger came out serving very strong and again put
       pressure on the Ferrer serve.  Once Federer broke, it was pretty
       much a foregone conclusion, but David hung in there and avoided
       giving back the bread-stick that he had dished to Federer in the
       second to hold at 2-4, but after another strong Federer service
       game to take it to 5-2, David couldn't avoid the final break,
       and Federer took the match and the tournament.
       Congratulations to Roger Federer, his team and fans for a
       well-earned title. It was a bit unexpected following his final
       last week, but he pulled it out.  He now has a bit over a week
       to recover and prepare for the US Open.
       Commiserations to David Ferrer, his team and fans. He had a good
       tournament and should be proud of that.
       Respectfully,
       masterclass
       #Post#: 16634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western & Southern Open: Cincinnati, U.S. A. : 8/10/14
   DIR By: masterclass
       Date: August 18, 2014, 3:58 am
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       > congrats to Federer and his fans. he snatches his 80th title.
       >
       >
       > only 20 more to go.
       >
       >
       >
       >
  HTML http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/08/33/Cincinnati-Final-Federer-Ferrer.aspx
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       General, I revived and updated the Federer 100 titles and 20
       slams Quest thread.  Federer has Lendl in his sights. 14 more to
       go ;)  If he can get to 90, be sure that thread won't need
       reviving... :)
       Too bad he couldn't have won a couple more of those 8 finals he
       has made so far this year, but it is what it is.  Indian Wells
       was certainly winnable, losing in the deciding tiebreaker.  He
       pretty much gifted Hewitt the title in Brisbane, and he made it
       very close at the end at Wimbledon.
       Considering the state of the other top players going into the US
       Open, I think he has to be one of the favorites to win it, but I
       don't think it will be that easy. Also, one has to wonder how
       much longer he can keep this good run of form. One thing that he
       doesn't want to jeopardize is Switzerland's best chance to win a
       Davis Cup, with the semifinal against Italy in Geneva coming up
       right after the US Open. Both he and Wawrinka have naturally
       made it a priority.
       Respectfully,
       masterclass
       #Post#: 16635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western & Southern Open: Cincinnati, U.S. A. : 8/10/14
   DIR By: Clay Death
       Date: August 18, 2014, 12:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: masterclass link ---
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       > [quote author=Clay Death link=topic=802.msg16628#msg16628
       date=1408330664]
       > congrats to Federer and his fans. he snatches his 80th title.
       >
       >
       > only 20 more to go.
       >
       >
       >
       >
  HTML http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/08/33/Cincinnati-Final-Federer-Ferrer.aspx
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       General, I revived and updated the Federer 100 titles and 20
       slams Quest thread.  Federer has Lendl in his sights. 14 more to
       go ;)  If he can get to 90, be sure that thread won't need
       reviving... :)
       Too bad he couldn't have won a couple more of those 8 finals he
       has made so far this year, but it is what it is.  Indian Wells
       was certainly winnable, losing in the deciding tiebreaker.  He
       pretty much gifted Hewitt the title in Brisbane, and he made it
       very close at the end at Wimbledon.
       Considering the state of the other top players going into the US
       Open, I think he has to be one of the favorites to win it, but I
       don't think it will be that easy. Also, one has to wonder how
       much longer he can keep this good run of form. One thing that he
       doesn't want to jeopardize is Switzerland's best chance to win a
       Davis Cup, with the semifinal against Italy in Geneva coming up
       right after the US Open. Both he and Wawrinka have naturally
       made it a priority.
       Respectfully,
       masterclass
       [/quote]
       great post general masterclass.
       we called it early at camelot as we always do:
       we said he was going to be a factor this year as early as when
       the australian open was in progress. as a matter of fact we even
       called it in 2013. we said very specifically that he was going
       to do quite well in 2014.
       you are 100% spot on. he could have taken indian wells and also
       monte carlo.
       his confidence and his game is rising.
       he is showing the whole world how to stay healthy, fit, and
       hungry at any age.
       #Post#: 16636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western & Southern Open: Cincinnati, U.S. A. : 8/10/14
   DIR By: masterclass
       Date: August 18, 2014, 1:10 pm
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       Let's make another prediction general. Almost everyone is down
       this year on Andy Murray right now, even Andy himself from all
       accounts.
       I predict he is going to have a great 2015.
       I think this year has not been good for many reasons, but of
       course recovery from his back surgery was top of the list,
       probably followed by the departure of Lendl.
       He lacked the proper fitness going into the Australian Open, and
       in retrospect that might have been a mistake to play their so
       soon.  And since then he has been fighting some fitness and
       confidence issues, that turned into a vicious cycle.  Losing
       early, not getting enough match play, especially against the top
       6-15 players, and then he would struggle to beat the top 20
       players, and all of a sudden have to play Federer, or Rafa, or
       Djokovic, and had no chance.
       But I think he's gradually getting better.  It's a two steps
       forward and one step back progress though, but it's better than
       the 1 step forward and 2 steps back that I was seeing earlier.
       His Isner win in Cincinnati was excellent. Isner is not easy to
       beat there.  He's lost to the eventual last two title winners.
       But he still has no top 10 wins since Wimbledon last year.  I
       think that will change, I just don't know when. It could be at
       the US Open, or in the fall swing and indoors.  But I hope and
       think it will happen eventually.
       I wouldn't be surprised in 2015 if he wins 2 majors as long as
       he stays healthy.
       Respectfully,
       masterclass
       #Post#: 16648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Western & Southern Open: Cincinnati, U.S. A. : 8/10/14
   DIR By: thetruth
       Date: August 20, 2014, 12:46 am
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       --- Quote from: Emma link ---
       >
       > Oh yes, Tsogna is out too but then again he might be out of it
       both emotionally and mentally. Good break before the USO I say.
       >
       > Nole was pushed to 3rd set last night. I was a bit surprised I
       must say. Of course Simon is a tough opponent for a 2nd round
       match.
       >
       > Andy got past Sousa early on today.
       >
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       I missed quite a bit of the Cincy tournament. I didn't see it
       until the quarters so I was wondering what happened to a lot of
       the players.
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