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Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 5, 2013, 9:59 pm
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--- Quote from: masterclass link ---
>
> Hi all, good looking new forum :)
> Thanks for the invite General Hercules.
>
> Why, you may ask, did I think Stan would beat Andy in 3 sets?
>
> 1. Stan has always given Andy some trouble; he matches up
pretty well with him.
>
> 2. Stan beat Andy in their last US Open match in 2010.
>
> 3. Stan demolished Andy at Monte Carlo this year. 1 & 2,
though some may think this is irrelevant because it was on clay,
it still showed me something.
>
> 4. I think Stan has been the better overall player on hard
courts this year, despite Andy's win in Miami and early in
Brisbane. Stan pushed Novak to the edge, losing a 5 set
thriller at the Australian Open, and it was really anyone's
match at the end.
>
> 5. It seemed to me that Wawrinka's level has gone up since
last fall, while Murray's has gone down relatively speaking.
>
> 6. I have not seen the fire in Murray since he won Wimbledon,
where he said that winning it would be the best thing he would
ever achieve. I personally don't think that is a good attitude
to have if you want to go on and achieve more. Maybe he'll get
the fire back, maybe he won't.
>
> 7. Murray had 2 relatively poor matches in the lead up hard
court events in Toronto and Cincinnati.
> While he also didn't do so well last year in those events, and
still won the US Open, last year he had a pretty good excuse.
He had a tough Olympics, which he won. I think he needed the
break that he got. This year, I think he needed to perform
better in at least one of those masters, and he did not.
>
> Wawrinka played a very intelligent match today against Murray.
He really mixed it up. He played a fair amount of off-pace
stuff, giving Murray some of his own medicine, then hit it hard
from both wings. He tactically used the court well. He came to
the net whenever he had a chance, even on some he shouldn't, but
that looked part of the plan. All this mix caused Murray to not
have a lot of rhythm.
>
> Wawrinka served fairly well, but nothing spectacular. On
return, he pretty much had Murray at his mercy whenever Murray
sent in one of his pretty weak second serves. It was only a
question of whether Wawrinka would keep the ball in play as he
hammered the wounded duck.
>
> Eventually, Murray started missing more and more of his first
serves. Murray did not play that well off the ground, as it
looked like Wawrinka's tactical mix threw him off. Only Andy's
first serve kept him from having a worse 1st set score. Once
Wawrinka started reading Murray's 1st serve better and Murray's
first serve went off a bit, Murray didn't have much else on
which to rely on, and Wawrinka pulled away to win in a not very
close 3 sets.
>
> The good news for Stan Wawrinka is that this effort should not
have taken a great deal out of him, and he should be ready for
his next match against Youzhny or Djokovic.
>
> Congratulations to Spartan Stan Wawrinka and his fans.
Commiserations to Andy Murray and his fans. Andy won Wimbledon;
even the great Lendl could not win it.
>
> Respectfully,
> masterclass
>
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excellent post general masterclass.
that sums it up nicely general.
still I expected andy to serve well and return even better. it
would appear that he incurred heavy casualties on these 2
fronts.
he needed to take better care of his serve and he needed to
dominate with his return game. especially today since stan was
playing so well. Spartan had run over berdych in 4 the time
previous.
he failed to keep enough pressure on Spartan Stan`s side of the
net.
Spartan Stan simply grew stronger in confidence as a result of
it.
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Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 9:08 am
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looks like nekro has huge problems.
don't know what the hell his deal is. he is not about making
type of contribution at all.
all he wants is drama behind the scenes. I am sure he has bother
the hell out of scott about the three of us---me, general
masterclass, and general slasher.
and we happen to be about building things while he is all about
needless conflict, drama, and friction.
I did talk to Diana about him a while back. I heard he has a
huge drinking problem.
still cant figure out what betty sees in him. he has her duped,
doped, and drugged on the damn internet.
anyway it was time to distance myself from him. he is the reason
why the castle experiment did not work at tennis frontier.
I fell into my usual trap of trying to be too damn kind to too
many people while also trying to stand up for what I thought was
the right thing at the time.
I should have stepped back, kept quiet, and just relaxed.
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Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 9:22 am
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I am fired up about the semis tomorrow.
I am for spartan stan. he will fight like there is no tomorrow.
you can make book on that. and did I mention that he has brought
heavy artillery?
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#Post#: 200--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: masterclass
Date: September 6, 2013, 1:56 pm
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General Hercules, I think you were spot on about Andy Murray.
He has to especially improve his second serve. Rolling them in
at an avg of 84 mph is WTA stuff. When he gets tight some of
them just float in at 75, begging to be smacked. It is a real
liability. There shouldn't be so much difference between his
first serve, where he averages 118-120 and frequently hits close
to 130, and his second serve. The poor second serve can be
blasted back by almost anyone and either loses him the point
right away or puts Murray on the defensive immediately. It also
begins to put a lot of pressure on his first serve. Murray's
first serve deteriorated noticeably after the first set. If he
can improve the second serve, then his first serve's consistency
will probably improve. He needs to up his second serve speed at
least 10 mph on avg.
Murray usually has one of the better returns in the game, on
first serve anyway. Almost everybody's average ace count drops
when they face Murray.
Still, after his return, he seems sometimes to be a bit lost,
and definitely on the defensive, which differs from Djokovic.
Murray has to improve his second serve returns. He is
susceptible to the kick serve.
Murray had 0, that's right zero break points against Wawrinka.
It's difficult to win if you can't break. It's even more
difficult if you never get a break point. Yes, Wawrinka
protected his serve well, but Murray can and should do better.
If he wants to remain in the top echelon, he needs to quickly
put that Wimbledon win on the shelf, set himself new challenges
and move on. I look for a good indoor season for him if he does
that.
The 1st item on my list for him - win the World Tour Finals in
London this year. It's a worthy goal. Nearly all the top
players in the Open Era have some year end championship trophies
on their shelf. Here is the list of winners:
6 - Roger Federer
5 - Ivan Lendl, Pete Sampras
4 - Ilie Nastase
3 - John McEnroe, Boris Becker
2 - Bjorn Borg, Lleyton Hewitt, Novak Djokovic
1 - Stan Smith, Guillermo Vilas, Manuel Orantes, Jimmy Connors,
Stefan Edberg, Andre Agassi, Michael Stich, Alex Corretja,
Gustavo Kuerten, David Nalbandian, Nikolay Davydenko
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 2:43 pm
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one hell of a post there general masterclass.
I am not at home at the moment.
it is difficult to post properly with I phone.
we will talk about Andy and spartan Stan at length later when I
get home.
Andy has some work to do general.
#Post#: 204--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 2:59 pm
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it's great to see you here general lugburz.
make yourself at home general.
Camelot is at your disposal.
#Post#: 205--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 3:17 pm
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Flavia pennetta is in trouble.
it's not looking good at the moment.
#Post#: 206--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 7:42 pm
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big day tomorrow at flushing meadows.
I am hoping for a great victory for Spartan Stan.
;D ;D
#Post#: 207--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 9:02 pm
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ok folks I have changed the opening page a little bit.
it is still work in progress but it looks a little better now.
;D ;D
#Post#: 210--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAMELOT
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: September 6, 2013, 10:10 pm
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--- Quote from: masterclass link ---
>
> General Hercules, I think you were spot on about Andy Murray.
>
> He has to especially improve his second serve. Rolling them
in at an avg of 84 mph is WTA stuff. When he gets tight some of
them just float in at 75, begging to be smacked. It is a real
liability. There shouldn't be so much difference between his
first serve, where he averages 118-120 and frequently hits close
to 130, and his second serve. The poor second serve can be
blasted back by almost anyone and either loses him the point
right away or puts Murray on the defensive immediately. It also
begins to put a lot of pressure on his first serve. Murray's
first serve deteriorated noticeably after the first set. If he
can improve the second serve, then his first serve's consistency
will probably improve. He needs to up his second serve speed at
least 10 mph on avg.
>
> Murray usually has one of the better returns in the game, on
first serve anyway. Almost everybody's average ace count drops
when they face Murray.
>
> Still, after his return, he seems sometimes to be a bit lost,
and definitely on the defensive, which differs from Djokovic.
Murray has to improve his second serve returns. He is
susceptible to the kick serve.
>
> Murray had 0, that's right zero break points against Wawrinka.
It's difficult to win if you can't break. It's even more
difficult if you never get a break point. Yes, Wawrinka
protected his serve well, but Murray can and should do better.
>
> If he wants to remain in the top echelon, he needs to quickly
put that Wimbledon win on the shelf, set himself new challenges
and move on. I look for a good indoor season for him if he does
that.
>
> The 1st item on my list for him - win the World Tour Finals in
London this year. It's a worthy goal. Nearly all the top
players in the Open Era have some year end championship trophies
on their shelf. Here is the list of winners:
>
> 6 - Roger Federer
> 5 - Ivan Lendl, Pete Sampras
> 4 - Ilie Nastase
> 3 - John McEnroe, Boris Becker
> 2 - Bjorn Borg, Lleyton Hewitt, Novak Djokovic
> 1 - Stan Smith, Guillermo Vilas, Manuel Orantes, Jimmy
Connors, Stefan Edberg, Andre Agassi, Michael Stich, Alex
Corretja, Gustavo Kuerten, David Nalbandian, Nikolay Davydenko
>
> Respectfully,
> masterclass
>
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very tough day at the office for andy general masterclass.
normally he is able to get back in the matches on the strength
of his return game alone.
you cant win if you cant break. you have to return well enough
to secure a few break points.
as for the 2nd serve, he has to start working on that asap.
they had somebody in a wheelchair tennis serving at 82-84 mph.
andy is nearly 6 foot 4 and he is as strong as they come. I know
he has that 130-135 mph first serve so there really is no excuse
to throw in club level 2nd serves.
at any rate, on the other side of the ledger, Spartan Stan came
to play. his game clicked and it all came together for him.
I have a feeling that he is going to be able to keep that up
against nole. that match may go the full distance tomorrow.
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