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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 6:39 pm
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       general freaky let me know if you want me to start work on the
       most amazing super sig ever for you.
       I will need to know the name of all your players.
       ;D
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 6:50 pm
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       [quote author=Emma link=topic=3.msg68#msg68 date=1378326372]
       No worries about replying if you are still on the road. You are
       so much on the road sometimes I think of you as door to door
       sales person. LOLz. I am teasing you!
       But did you know? There was a time I really thought Swish was a
       door to door vitamin sales person. lol. Nothing wrong with that
       but I just found it really funny. He'd just post vitamin stuff
       all the time so it had made me wonder about things. lol.
       Good match, this Ferru vs Richie but I am pulling for Richie
       without a doubt.
       None of us are bad, herc be it you or I or tented or Owen etc.
       It's just that the matter was handled in a very wrong way and
       not in timely fashion either, unfortunately. All they needed to
       do is just relax the rules a lot as we are all grown ups after
       all minus Alex. lol. They could have still kept the rules they
       have now and let the Castle flow. it was such a minor adjustment
       and yet, it never got done the proper way. And you couldn't just
       wait and be patient so I have a beef with you too, mind you.
       Next time, I want you to speak to the Mod you are most friendly
       with (in this case it was BB) if that ever happens again. So
       that's something you really badly need to adjust. You are going
       to promise that to all of us.
       [/quote]
       you got a deal lady emma.
       mistake were made on both sides.
       I still thin they were pretty hard up on making us 2nd class
       citizens.
       not necessarily baron but his chimpanzees. especially moxie and
       tented.
       tented was all about ultra control. he deleted one of my posts
       as soon as I got there.
       and the post was simple: the post just asked if we should
       consider a classified section/board.
       he deleted it and then he told me he told me that he does not
       want that on his forum.
       as bad as tented was, moxie was worse. she told me stop posting
       at the art gallery thread that I created.
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 7:24 pm
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       [quote author=Emma link=topic=3.msg65#msg65 date=1378324815]
       herc or Slasher, is it possible to have the left column (where
       it has the Members, Stats, Users etc.) across the board at the
       top of page? That way we don't have to scroll right and also, it
       would look nice and neat. Isn't that the way other forums are?
       Anyway, I am not sure if I should be demanding so much on my 2nd
       post here. :p
       herc, I got your PM last night  but since I thought I was going
       to be here today, so I'd reply here. As to the first one, I was
       thinking about things and also wanted to see where things were
       going as it all seemed quite unsettled. I believe you could have
       handled the matter better but at the same time, I could also see
       why you'd be so angry. There's no point making you and Javi the
       mod and not give you any real power. that really and truly
       defeats the purpose. Also, that meant they didn't trust you
       enough. And the deal they offered later after all hooplas had
       the freedom of much less moderation but it came at the expense
       of the Castle taking a backseat and that didn't make any sense.
       They could have left it at the front page and called it Frontier
       Castle Chat or something. That way they could have maintained
       their own brand and the Castle would have had its own identity.
       The idea of a Castle is a very open and it needs all its freedom
       to fully exercise its all possibilities but unfortunately, it
       just wasn't there from the get go. I wish Owen could see that
       and had a better conversation with both tented and Moxie. That
       way I am sure we would have all had something that would have
       made everyone happy. But alas, that probably wasn't meant to be.
       I was personally very disturbed when Slasher's post re: a
       poster's death at MTF got deleted. I was quoting his post  at
       that time to show my condolences, but I couldn't do it only to
       realize a minute later that the original post was deleted right
       away. That felt inhuman. How can you not allow the news of a
       poster who had just died? There are some things in life where
       the news should be spread right away so that we cal all show our
       respect and this news was one of them. I found it as extreme
       moderation almost cult like. However I don't feel at all either
       Owen or tented are mean spirited people or anything; quite the
       contrary in fact, but it just came out in dead wrong manner.
       Yes, we have rules that we need to obey but we are also human
       beings so we should know better as to how to use our discretion.
       In any case, I don't have any bitter feelings towards anyone or
       anything. I just later thought it was never meant to be and
       sounded too good to be true from the start. We all still have a
       lot to learn.
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       I am not sure how to fix that emma.
       general slasher or general august might know. hopefully they
       will see this post when they swing by.
       truth be told, that is a home made forum.
       a lot of those are completely free on the net and vast majority
       of them have no appeal. there are constraints and there are
       severe limitations to those type of forums.
       it is also an extremely clickish crowd. and they tend to hang
       out with each other at their tennis discussion page 99% of the
       time.
       they did not really care about us at the castle. moxie and
       tented avoided it and so did 99% of their mods.
       I made it clear to baron when I got there that it was up to us
       and all the locals there and all the global mods there to set an
       example of personally meeting and greeting folks when they
       arrived at the castle. it told him it would start a trend.
       people like to be noticed and spoken to.
       well it did not happen. baron was the only one and its because I
       kept asking him to meet and greet new people at the castle when
       they arrived.
       betty was extremely upset one morning. she sent me a pm and said
       that she was sick and tired of being so blatantly ignored there.
       I don't think it was going to work emma. sooner or later it
       would have ended there anyway.
       I have known a lot of those people for a long time. vast
       majority of them do not care about me.
       it is what it is. I am not going to lose any sleep over it.
       we live and learn and we move on. we adapt and we evolve. we
       will never be able to please the whole world.
       it was fun in the beginning because most new things can be fun
       and are fun if we just have the capacity to just let them be
       fun.
       and the upside seemed interesting since we were starting from
       ground zero. one has to be optimistic about things in life.
       I had a feeling that their indifference and their constant
       meddling and endless propensity to be all controlling would
       inhibit our enterprise sooner or later.
       and so it happened.
       anyway I have some ideas. we start from scratch here and we just
       hang on for our opportunity for a really cool forum with some
       commercial appeal.
       those who stick with us and help us build a little bit will be
       stars at our next forum.
       and we will let the gutless cowards run since they never were
       really with us in the first bloody place.
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Emma Date: September 4, 2013, 7:38 pm
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       I think most of the posters there are very tennis oriented so
       they stick to threads that are more related to that. It's a
       tennis forum after all. Some of them do hang out on other
       threads like the Movie, Music, art etc. but only a few. Anyway,
       that doesn't even matter and I don't think they need to hang out
       at the Castle either. I know that a relationship takes time to
       build and we were never there. I know baron britbox from before
       so I was most comfortable with him and I really liked Kieran -
       he's such a sweetheart. He'd hang out a lot at the Castle but as
       I said, they don't and didn't need to. They just needed to trust
       you and Javi enough to leave it alone. But you know, it's hteir
       forum after all though I wish they'd known what they were
       getting into because Castle has it's fare share of
       controversies. So once they accepted it, IMHO, they should have
       been brave enough to stick with it. There was just way too much
       meddling to the point I felt really uncomfortable and I let Owen
       know too. Anyway, it's in the past now. Best things tend to come
       out from the worst or they say.
       I am sorry to here that betty got upset. Probably it's some of
       our fault too. You've been always great at greeting all the
       posters but I am afraid I haven't done the same with either
       betty or nikki, so I take some responsibility as well.
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 7:54 pm
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       well I don't think the door is closed forever lady emma.
       first of all as you know, baron still welcomes us there with
       open arms.
       we will let some time pass first and foremost.
       and then we will look at our various options.
       in the mean time, we do have our own place. there were really
       just a few of us at the castle there anyway.
       and as you know we are all so busy during the day. we only tend
       to relax at a cool, calm, quiet forum in the evenings when we
       can.
       here you are a global moderator already. see how easy it would
       have been. all they had to do was restore my and javi`s quiet
       leadership at the castle and let it roll for a while.
       we brought baron what he was craving for. we brought him some
       growth.
       even general masterclass made  this point: he said that some
       leadership at least in principle was important at the castle.
       I just wanted my name and javi`s name at the top as mods because
       to many people it represents and safety and security.
       we are not and never have been power hungry mods. it was to be
       just a symbolic thing.
       and it also means that a few more people would have come our
       way.
       I like Kieran a lot too. he posted with us a little bit at the
       castle.
       we can ask him to stop by here once in a while and say hello.
       baron also said he will stop by and say hello.
       we wont do anything to hurt their forum in any way.
       baron is a class act.
       and so is of course Kieran.
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 7:59 pm
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       alex the hapless troll was banned for 14 days today at
       tennis4you for harassing general nekro.
       and for racist remarks.
       I think he said something pretty stupid about you too.
       no doubt he will make his way here before long.
       ban the worthless fool permanently instantly when you see him
       here.
       #Post#: 85--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 8:01 pm
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       by the way folks check out this facebook page.
       I just posted there and asked them for some help. I asked them
       to give us a bit of helping hand by joining here.
  HTML https://www.facebook.com/wearetennis
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 8:09 pm
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       its showtime.
       nadal vs robredo.
       I cant see roberedo winning this one.
       #Post#: 87--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 8:25 pm
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       do you remember this picture emma?
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Emma Date: September 4, 2013, 8:39 pm
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       I know neither you nor Javi are power hungry and because you are
       the owners of the Castle, it makes sense that you two would have
       your names there.
       Leadership is a great thing but only when people don't lose
       sight of things which is mainly to serve others and that's all
       there is. But more often than not we tend to abuse it.
       It would be nice to see baron here for sure. I was at TF this
       late afternoon and sent him a PM to say hello. I told him that
       I'd stop by from time to time.
       Oh, so I am a mod now? I didn't even notice. lol. what am I
       supposed to mod though? Maybe I'll mod baron once he's here and
       give him some sweet time :p kidding!
       And also, I can always mod freaky's name. I mean what kind of
       name is that?? lol
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